Comments on: One more note on Christianity and Feminism

By: fp

fp — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:45:24 +0000

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By: The Happy Feminist

The Happy Feminist — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:49:17 +0000

FEMINISM AND COMMUNITY

Hugo put up a terrific post today about how his Christian faith and his feminism mutually reinforce each other. Although I am not a Christian, I am very interested in the prevalent misunderstandings between Christians and secular feminists, which Hugo

By: The Happy Feminist

The Happy Feminist — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:05:23 +0000

FEMINISM AND COMMUNITY

By: Hugo

Hugo — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:42:59 +0000

Sophonisba, I agree that many men are scared off as well. I used sisters because the original post was only about why young women reject the label, not men.

By: sophonisba

sophonisba — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:33:29 +0000

I’m not scared off from the name “feminist” by those who also use that label but do not share my views. And I am saddened that so many of my sisters are.

And your brothers? I happen to agree with much of what you say about anti-feminist women, but do you think that anti-feminist men are less numerous, or are less prone to ignoring their ethical obligation to think seriously about justice? (If you answer, no, but that’s another issue- why is it not the same issue?)

By: Hugo

Hugo — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:03:57 +0000

West, thanks for the link. Eleanor’s experience of our faith saddens me; she has seen one aspect of Christianity and clearly been wounded by it. Certainly, what she writes is true of some churches, some of the time, and some theology. But, to put it mildly - and perhaps theologically literally — she has truly thrown the baby out with the bathwater!

Yes, we all have separate feminisms, just as we all have a separate relationship with the God who loves us. But that doesn’t mean we don’t have unifying truths that bind us together, at least some of the time. My argument for “big tent” feminism and “big tent” Christianity does have some limits, though fewer than some would like.

By: westcoast2

westcoast2 — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:55:12 +0000

My feminism informs my faith, just as my faith has taken my feminism from the superficial shell it once was and made it an integral part of who I am. I do not expect all feminists to be Christians, or all Christians to be feminists, but I do reject the notion that to be one means one cannot be the other.

The example here by Eleanor=> Three Challenges to Christianity

Is somewhat thought provoking wrt Christianity/Feminism.

From the example above and some of the ideas you have expressed, one could say “My Feminism allows me to remain consistent with my whatever value/ideal etc… I need it to ”

Feminism, seems to have multiple definitions, Christianity, multiple interpretations.

So how could anyone argue with the first part of what you have said above?

be well,

west

By: The Gonzman

The Gonzman — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:54:37 +0000

At the same time, Hugo, while I may share my tent with the Borgias, the Torquemadas, and the like - I denounce them, and refuse them anything but scorn.

By: Rachel

Rachel — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:56:06 +0000

I really like the paragraphs where you describe who is beneath the “Christian” tent and who beneath the “feminist” tent. It’s easy to forget how broad those labels (most labels?) really are, or ought to be if we’re defining them right.

By: Caitriona

Caitriona — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:21:47 +0000

BTW, Hugo, 1 Cor 7:4 allows me to quite easily nix any idea my husband may have of going back to bull-riding, trying bronc-busting, or riding a motorcycle. ;-)