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	<title>Comments on: Garamendi over Speier: a response to Kyle</title>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23102</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the posts it is clear that Speier really was the one to handily beat McClintock, as it stands tonight, McClintock and Garamendi are neck and neck! What a mistake Liz Figueroa is...she clearly made sure that both a Republican may win the Lt. Gov race, and that the best candidate will not be Lt Governor...whether it is McClintock or Garamnedi. The state of CA loses on either choice given for the General. Speier for Governor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the posts it is clear that Speier really was the one to handily beat McClintock, as it stands tonight, McClintock and Garamendi are neck and neck! What a mistake Liz Figueroa is&#8230;she clearly made sure that both a Republican may win the Lt. Gov race, and that the best candidate will not be Lt Governor&#8230;whether it is McClintock or Garamnedi. The state of CA loses on either choice given for the General. Speier for Governor!</p>
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		<title>By: WebMan</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23101</link>
		<dc:creator>WebMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rokko</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23100</link>
		<dc:creator>Rokko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23099</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23099</guid>
		<description>I have no problem with Speier: if she wins (as the polls predict), I'll vote for her with enthusiasm in November.  I am not so sure Bowen can beat Ortiz, but that's another race between good Democratic women.

I'm still likely to change my registration to Green before November anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with Speier: if she wins (as the polls predict), I&#8217;ll vote for her with enthusiasm in November.  I am not so sure Bowen can beat Ortiz, but that&#8217;s another race between good Democratic women.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still likely to change my registration to Green before November anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: humbition</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23098</link>
		<dc:creator>humbition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I believe I agree with Hugo that there is no automatic moral imperative to go with a woman candidate over a male, equally qualified, candidate, I found that this dialogue (here and on Alas) actually catalyzed my own vote to change from Garamendi to Speier.  Even though Al Gore, whom I respect greatly and want to run for President, made a "robocall" for Garamendi last night.  Even though I have thought of the environment as my most important issue for 35 or so years.  

I think Speier will be an excellent, determined, strong Lieutenant Governor, and she has been a "star" in the legislature.  The one ad I saw from her campaign was very strong and effective without being negative.  And the fact that the environmental groups endorsed her as well as Garamendi meant that this was not really a factor.  

I think there is something to be said for Ampersand's idea of preferring minority voices (and in politics the women's voice is a minority one, look at the statistics on women's representation at any level).  I don't take it as a moral imperative, as I'm kind of souring on the idea of moral imperatives  -- that's a long story and one which detours through the Balkans.  But it represents my wish that everyone be represented and part of the social dialogue, which is part of my vision of the world which I want to see emerge.  So I used the Ampersand principle in voting for County Democratic Party Committee, where there isn't a lot of information about the candidates anyway.  

So Speier it is -- not solely for being female but very much because she seems young and "hungry" (ambitious, strongwilled, outspoken).  With Speier and Deborah Bowen in the state capital and retaining Feinstein and Boxer in the US capitol, we will be known as the state of strong women.  Not a bad thing, actually, at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I believe I agree with Hugo that there is no automatic moral imperative to go with a woman candidate over a male, equally qualified, candidate, I found that this dialogue (here and on Alas) actually catalyzed my own vote to change from Garamendi to Speier.  Even though Al Gore, whom I respect greatly and want to run for President, made a &#8220;robocall&#8221; for Garamendi last night.  Even though I have thought of the environment as my most important issue for 35 or so years.  </p>
<p>I think Speier will be an excellent, determined, strong Lieutenant Governor, and she has been a &#8220;star&#8221; in the legislature.  The one ad I saw from her campaign was very strong and effective without being negative.  And the fact that the environmental groups endorsed her as well as Garamendi meant that this was not really a factor.  </p>
<p>I think there is something to be said for Ampersand&#8217;s idea of preferring minority voices (and in politics the women&#8217;s voice is a minority one, look at the statistics on women&#8217;s representation at any level).  I don&#8217;t take it as a moral imperative, as I&#8217;m kind of souring on the idea of moral imperatives  &#8212; that&#8217;s a long story and one which detours through the Balkans.  But it represents my wish that everyone be represented and part of the social dialogue, which is part of my vision of the world which I want to see emerge.  So I used the Ampersand principle in voting for County Democratic Party Committee, where there isn&#8217;t a lot of information about the candidates anyway.  </p>
<p>So Speier it is &#8212; not solely for being female but very much because she seems young and &#8220;hungry&#8221; (ambitious, strongwilled, outspoken).  With Speier and Deborah Bowen in the state capital and retaining Feinstein and Boxer in the US capitol, we will be known as the state of strong women.  Not a bad thing, actually, at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23097</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amp pointed this out in his post today at Alas -- I misread (honestly) Kyle's remarks, and inferred something he wasn't implying.  I stand by my endorsement of Garamendi, and the general principle that feminism doesn't have any "musts" when it comes to choosing between generally feminist-friendly candidates.  

But I am sorry I misconstrued what Kyle was saying, and I apologize.  

And in the end, once again, any of the three candidates would make terrific LGs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amp pointed this out in his post today at Alas &#8212; I misread (honestly) Kyle&#8217;s remarks, and inferred something he wasn&#8217;t implying.  I stand by my endorsement of Garamendi, and the general principle that feminism doesn&#8217;t have any &#8220;musts&#8221; when it comes to choosing between generally feminist-friendly candidates.  </p>
<p>But I am sorry I misconstrued what Kyle was saying, and I apologize.  </p>
<p>And in the end, once again, any of the three candidates would make terrific LGs.</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23096</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But I resent the hell out of the notion that feminism requires that all else being equal, one always must vote for a woman. &lt;/i&gt;

I imagine Kyle probably resents the hell out of your little shell game, where you pretend his argument "you should vote for Speier because she's better on women's issues" was really "you should vote for a woman".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But I resent the hell out of the notion that feminism requires that all else being equal, one always must vote for a woman. </i></p>
<p>I imagine Kyle probably resents the hell out of your little shell game, where you pretend his argument &#8220;you should vote for Speier because she&#8217;s better on women&#8217;s issues&#8221; was really &#8220;you should vote for a woman&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alas, a Blog</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23103</link>
		<dc:creator>Alas, a Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;All Else Being Equal, I Vote for Women of Color&lt;/strong&gt;

So why should progressives be sexblind or colorblind in the voting booth? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>All Else Being Equal, I Vote for Women of Color</strong></p>
<p>So why should progressives be sexblind or colorblind in the voting booth?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23095</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe someday, Stentor -- except I'm afraid I'm embarrass myself.  You and Chris Clarke write so beautifully and thoughtfully; I'm just a knee-jerk supporter of the Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth, slow growth (or no growth) movements everywhere.   I'll try and write more about this sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someday, Stentor &#8212; except I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m embarrass myself.  You and Chris Clarke write so beautifully and thoughtfully; I&#8217;m just a knee-jerk supporter of the Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth, slow growth (or no growth) movements everywhere.   I&#8217;ll try and write more about this sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Stentor</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/05/31/garamendi-over-speier-a-response-to-kyle/#comment-23094</link>
		<dc:creator>Stentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 19:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I'm also a long-time Sierra Club member and a fairly ardent environmentalist.&lt;/i&gt;
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on environmental issues more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m also a long-time Sierra Club member and a fairly ardent environmentalist.</i><br />
I&#8217;d be interested to hear your thoughts on environmental issues more often.</p>
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