A long post on 10Ks and grading: considering the objective and the comparative

After my brief post about grading on Monday, I received a number of questions and comments about my policy.  I’d like to expand a bit on my grading philosophy.

I grew up the son of two college professors.  My late father taught philosophy for forty years, first at the University of Alberta and then at UC Santa Barbara.  My mother taught the same subject, as well as religious studies and humanities, at Monterey Peninsula College from 1975-2003.   As a kid, I can remember my mom during exam times: she would retreat to her study with stacks of blue books and papers, emerging periodically for coffee.  There were frequent expressions of exasperation with what her students had failed to grasp. 

I had my first experience as a "grader" when I first began to work as a teaching assistant at UCLA.   The first course I TAed was a "Roman Studies" course offered in the Department of Classics in the spring quarter, 1991 (I took so many Latin courses, I might as well have been in that department).  The professor, bless his heart, was a stickler for what he called "grade norming".  Before we handed papers back to our students, we had "grade meetings."  In these meetings, each of his six TAs had to share an example of what we considered an "A" paper, a "B" paper, and a "C" paper.  We read the same papers, argued intensely, and were — not surprisingly — stunned by some of the discrepancies that appeared. 

We found that there were a small number of superb papers that we all agreed were of "A" quality.  But beneath that, subjective chaos!  What one TA considered a strong B, another considered a high C.  What I might consider a low C, another would consider absolutely hopeless and undeserving of a passing grade.  We were grading essays on a wide variety of criteria: content, style, the strength of a thesis, the grace of an argument.  The professor in charge of all of us was very patient, urging us to learn from one another and to pay attention to the insights and intuitions of our colleagues. He also told us that grading in the Humanities would always be an inexact operation, as much based on art and impulse as on science and certainty.  Interestingly, he never asked any of us to change the grades we had given after we had gone through the "norming" process, though he did ask the toughest and the most lenient of the TAs to consider changing their stances.

In my seven quarters as a TA at UCLA, I had only one other prof who made her TAs "norm".   Most of the rest simply gave us absolute control over the grading.  In theory, the professors were supposed to review each final grade the TAs assigned; in practice, most of the time the professors simply signed the grading sheets and went off to the south of France while their assistants made the final decisions unsupervised.

In my early years, both at UCLA and at PCC, I was a fairly easy grader.  I was always a "tough A", but a very easy "C".   There were some semesters where I failed absolutely no one — except for plagiarism or a failure to turn in a term paper and a final.  My old policy, born of a misplaced compassion and a need to be liked, was "if you show up, you pass."  Students who came to office hours and showed genuine (or feigned) interest in the subject were likely to get easy Bs.    It took me at least five years of full-time teaching at the community college to tighten my standards.

At Pasadena City College, we can’t modify final grades with pluses or minuses.  Several years ago, a proposal went before the faculty senate to allow us to do just that.  I strongly supported it, but for a variety of reasons, my colleagues shot it down.  Thus there are but five grades we can give, unmodified: A,B,C,D,F.  Even now, that causes its own share of frustrations!  Two students can both earn identical B grades, but one narrowly missed an A and the other barely scraped above a C.  The difference in the work the two students did is immense, and yet the final record from the course doesn’t reflect that.  I find that maddening, and long for the day when I can give "A-", "B+", and "B-" grades.

At PCC, no one monitors the grades tenured professors give to their students.  Tenured faculty get evaluated every third year.  I’ve had tenure since 1998, and since that time, I’ve never been questioned about my grading distribution.  Somewhere, someone collects data about which professors assign certain grades, but it is understood that we have absolute and final say over the marks we give.  The only limitations on our grading decisions are the legal ones: we can’t use grades to punish or reward, in exchange for money or sexual favors, we can’t give grades based on race or sex or religion.   On the rare occasions when a student does challenge a grade, the only way that they can get the grade overturned by the administration is to prove bias.  The professor, like a defendant in court, doesn’t have to prove anything.   In my years at PCC, the administration has never overturned a single grading decision made by a tenured faculty member.

Whew, enough background. 

Today, I grade using a mix of objective and comparative factors.  In order to get an A on a paper, a student must have a solid argument and clear prose.  I don’t negotiate on that.  On the other hand, I think that students do need to understand where they stand in regards to each other.  If "B" means "superior" achievement (which is how the state defines a B), it must be superior to something. How can something be "superior" in a vacuum?  If an A denotes excellence, it means the student has excelled — and to excel means to surpass, and you’ve got to surpass someone!  We can’t recognize the good, the true, and the beautiful without also knowing the bad, the false, and the ugly — that’s a truth that is aesthetic, theological, and intellectual.

How other people do does matter in academia.  Whether or not you get into grad school, or get a scholarship, depends not only on the work you do but on the work your competitors have done.  Financial aid and admissions are zero-sum games, whether we like it or not.  And refusing to recognize that reality in our marking of student papers does those students a tremendous disservice.

When people ask me about my comparative grading policies, I use a story from my running career.  In 1999, I ran a lot of 10Ks.  I was in the best shape of my life.  One bright and shining day out near Marina Del Rey, I ran my all-time personal best: a 38:49.  (Trust me, I couldn’t get within six minutes of that today.)  I was immensely proud of my effort!  Of course, it was a popular race with thousands of entrants.  Despite my "PR", I only finished 28th overall and 5th in my age group.  No medal or ribbon for me.

A few months later, I did a small community 10K at the Rose Bowl.  On the second lap of the race, to my own amazement, I took the lead.  Me, with a police motorcycle escort! I was ecstatic, feeling like a Khalid Khannouchi or a Paula Radcliffe.  I looked over my shoulder and saw I had 200 meters on everyone else, and I actually slowed my pace, checking to make sure I had enough in reserve if I needed to kick at the end.  Everyone else faded (it was a hot day), and for the one and surely only time in my life, I felt tape across my chest.  I won the race — in a very pedestrian time of 40:59, more than two minutes slower than my PR.  I got a medal and a ribbon (alas, no prize money). I was very proud, even if I had only defeated a grand total of fewer than fifty rivals.

The point?  In life — and real life is a lot like running — whether or not you win or place is as much about who you are competing against as it is about your own efforts.  (Good thing God doesn’t work that way!) That may sound positively Darwinian, and to compare road racing to grading will no doubt cause some of my readers to splutter in indignation.  But when it comes to grants, scholarships, jobs, prize money, and everything else, we work and study and compete in community.   Grades ought to do more than reflect an individual student’s mastery of the subject; grades should also reflect where that student ranks in relation to his or her peers.  Mind you, it’s not an either/or, but a both/and.  I would never use purely comparative grading, as that might encourage a conspiracy of mediocrity among my students ("Hey, guys, let’s all write equally sloppy papers").   Individual understanding of the material is vitally important, but that factor is only part of the final grade — the other part is designed to let the student know where it is that they stand relative to their friends, colleagues, and, in the final analysis, fellow competitors.

I’ve developed this policy over fifteen years of college teaching, and am accustomed to defending it.  But if you don’t like it, have at it in the comments section.

Note to Col Steve:  I’ll answer your question in an upcoming post.

14 Responses to “A long post on 10Ks and grading: considering the objective and the comparative”


  1. 1 Bill

    So what happens when you try to leave the environment you are currently in and try to compete for a higher degree at another institution? Obviously your formula applies here also; whereas you did fine in one, you would drown in the next place. New pool of candidates of higher caliber. __so doesn’t that mean that you need to compete against yourself and not against others? If you get used to competing to the standards of others, then you would probably be unable to survive in a more competitive environment.

  2. 2 Hugo

    Which is why, Bill, it’s a mix of objective and comparative criteria. And in order to move on to a better institution, you need to do more than “compete to” the standards of others — you need to surpass them. Climbing towards the summit has a winnowing effect.

  3. 3 Kat with a K

    I basically agree with what you’re saying, as far as it goes, but I think we are defining “peers” differently. Since admissions, etc. are, as you say, a zero-sum game, your students’ peers are not only the other students in your class, but the other students in other classes and other schools against whom they will be competing. Therefore, I think it would be unfair to knowingly handicap them by deliberately grading more harshly for the sake of it. (Again, I am not at all saying that you are doing this; I don’t have enough information to make that conclusion, for one thing. I’m speaking theoretically.) I realize that it’s impossible to know how any other possible peers might be graded, unless some sort of standardized tests took the place of papers, and I am CERTAINLY not advocating that route. I don’t have a good solution. That’s just my major concern.

    Oh, and another point I meant to bring up the other day: I know that C is technically “average,” but I have never ever heard of it actually being used or described that way. In junior high and high school, especially, C was “bad” and often the level at which papers had to be signed by parents to make sure they knew how poorly we were doing. If your students are coming to you from a similar environment, I’m not surprised that they are upset about Cs. In my experience (both secondary and undergrad/grad), B has always been perceived as “average.” Perhaps grades are going the way (or, rather, the opposite way) of women’s clothing sizes…

  4. 4 Hugo

    If you want agreement that the system is imperfect, Kat, you’ve got it.

  5. 5 jfpbookworm

    I think one of the problems with grading is what was pointed out with the “norming” exercise.

    From the individual teacher’s perspective, everything seems fine: the best papers get As, the next tier gets Bs, and so on. From the student’s perspective though, it’s a big mess: any variance in the quality of an individual student’s work between classes is likely to be drowned out by the variance among graders’ policies.

    I know that often work I was particularly proud of would come back with an A- or B+, while work I felt was of lesser quality received an A; there was never any indication as to the classwide distribution to let me know if that lower grade was actually more indicative of quality work.

  6. 6 Hugo

    JFP has reminded me that what I sometimes do, with a student’s permission, is xerox the best paper in the class (having hidden the name of the author) and distribute it to those who ask what an A looks like. It’s often very helpful.

  7. 7 Bill

    Yes! I like the way you put that comment Hugo. I also agree, you can’t just squeeze by, you have to go beyond in order to compete further on.

  8. 8 glendenb

    I’m cynical.

    School is a game, complete with a unique set of rules, expected outcomes and required actions on the parts of the players. Understand the rules by which the faculty is playing and you can excel with a certain amount of ease. Different professors approach the grading process differently, looking for different things; understand what the professor is looking for, return it to them, and you will excel without ever actually learning the subject.

    By revealing the rules of the game, you’ve opened yourself up to being gamed.

    I speak for experience - I was very skilled at identifying different professor’s grading methods and maximizing my advantages them to get the grade I wanted rather than the one I deserved.

  9. 9 Hugo

    Well, disclosing the rules of the game in most scenarios is considered essential.

    Glen, you point out the beauty of comparative grading — I can’t be gamed unless the entire class conspires together to do so. My classes of 30-45 students each are filled with students far too individualistic to pull that off. If I list the minimum requirements for a good grade, students will do the minimum. But when they see that at least to some extent, they are in competition with one another, everyone has to buckle down a bit more.

  10. 10 glendenb

    Hugo - the comparative element makes the game more complex but far from unbeatable.

    The simplest response is to figure out which of your peers are getting good grades and mimic their work in terms of style and content. I had peers who readily shared their “A” papers – it fed their egos; I also got good at reading people’s expressions in response to receiving their papers. I also had many professors willingly rewrite my papers for me then give me A’s – literally grading their own work; the key was to show up at least a week before the due date and say, “I think I’ve missed the central idea. Could you give me some guidance?” Almost every time my professor would read what I’d written and rewrite my paper to his/her specifications.

    I also developed skill at creating the “face time effect”; rarely if ever miss class and take good notes, ask follow up questions (if you’re really skilled, you can use the professor’s words from the lecture - it’s an effective mimetic technique that convinces the professors you are listening which is why you take notes), appear interested in the subject, then visit during office hours on a semi-regular basis sometimes just to say, “I’ve been thinking about today’s lecture”, and finally, mention that you’ve done extra reading – especially a book the professor mentioned during his/her lecture; I inevitably got better grades from those professors who I subjected to this treatment without any improvement in my actual classwork. It creates a halo effect for the actual academic work.

    Having said all this, there is a base line that has to be met – if don’t have the native intelligence to gain some mastery of the subject none of these other approaches will benefit you. But almost any and almost all professors can be successfully gamed by a student who shows an astute understanding of that professor’s character. Between high school, college, and graduate school, I found three professors/teachers who were immune to my approach (the exceptions were a professor to whom I had an intense and immediate personal dislike, a professor who was easily the finest scholar I have ever in my life encountered and even shrewder judge of character than I, and an economics professor who was so old he didn’t give a shit about the students or the topic).

    And before you give the obvious retort – I didn’t do any more work than my peers I simply worked in a different way and used the tools which I possesed. In my college major I graduated with a 4.0, when my peers who were certainly smarter but got lower grades. Professors are human - and a psychologically astute student can effectively adjust their grade upward while less astute peers can adjust them downward.

  11. 11 Indecisive

    Glen,

    It sounds like you were, how do I say it, actually learning, not just playing a game. Over the course of your education, you developed skills of active listening, improvisation, evaluation of personalities, and the ability to figure out how to maximize your potential in a given context. Sounds like a (mostly) complete education to me, so I’m just not sure what your argument is really about. I’m a college instructor and I’d be overjoyed if most of my students excelled only this much and still had little mastery over the material several years down the line.

    Hugo,

    Have you noticed any correlation b/t becoming more “strict” in your grading and your evaluations at the end of the semester? I’m willing to admit that b/c I’m not the most charismatic of instructors, I’m worried that grading too harshly may undercut my ratings even more, and like the students are competing for high grades, I know that I’m in a competition for high evalutions…

  12. 12 Hugo

    Indecisive, I’m afraid I have noticed at least a partial link between my grading and my evaluations. My evaluations have generally been strong, but there have been more critical remarks since I stopped being so easy. Of course, I’m getting a bit older, and I may have lost some of my “young Turk” enthusiasm I had a decade and more ago. Students often respond well to the young and the charismatic, and as one ages, it gets harder to play that role.

  13. 13 glendenb

    Indecisive – I really never considered it from that perspective. It always felt as if I were gaming the system by using my interpersonal abilities rather than my academic ones to succeed. It felt to me as if I were studying the professor, not the subject, and then tailoring my work to the professors preferred style and content; I often demonstrated at best a superficial mastery of any topic, but I had a great dexterity at mastering the expected style. When friends of mine figured out what I was doing, I was usually accused of not playing fair – they told me I was getting around the rules rather than following them.

  14. 14 Giant Green Hand

    Wow, glendenb - I have never seen such a perfect description of the education “game”. You nailed it.

    Indecisive - 100% too. The successful outcome of being “educated” is not knowing shitloads about a subject, it is knowing how to gain the acceptance of others, and organisational or social status.

    Guess what it’s like to have that “pleasantly competitive streak”, only to find that after a lifetime of gradings, rankings and evaluations, you’re forced to accept that you will never rise above “average”. When people are compared against each other, someone always loses. Winning behaviour garners attention, which leads to positive reinforcement, positive expectations from others, and all the rest. Winners tend to win repeatedly. Losers tend to lose. It doesn’t matter how many books you read or how many techniques you try. Eventually you run out of ideas. You realise that there is no hope of being a “star pupil”, so you give up. I suppose if you have some talent or ability that your culture values, you can fall back on that when you fail in other areas, but some of us have never found a way to excel.

    Spare a thought for the domestiques, especially those who still have hopeless dreams of winning.

    Then again, I suppose it’s not your job to bother with the mediocre. It’s their problem if they can’t work out how not to be “average” .

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