But what the hell - mutability of the past has always been a hall mark of your side, and making excuses for Orwellian practices. But you don’t like me shining my badge - well, guess who it was that pinned it on me to begin with? Txfeminist - ginmar -all the usual suspects. Sorry reality is uncomfortable for you.

Fact of the matter is, Bill Clinton is not and was not ever a paragon of “women’s rights” or treating women anything else except as a vessel for his personal gratification, adultery and harassment are a given, and rape on his part is more than quite possible to anyone who isn’t purely a partisan hack.

And if that is an example of a defender of women’s rights, suitable to be held up for admiration, it is pathetic.

It’s something I’ve been called before for simply disagreeing.

You all don’t want to wear those shoes, stop putting them on so damn eagerly. It’s hardly my fault if they fit. And not my job to change anyone else’s perception of you, I didn’t take you to raise.

There’s a reason that people think such things of you, and for once you might grow up and look in the mirror to see just why it is; the very fact that Doc Hugo gets such a ration of crap from the collective you - his supposed allies - for allowing the occasional dissenting viewpoint sure as God made Little Green Apples would seem to be a whallop with the cluebat for you.

By all means, though - don’t change for me. Just makes my job easier. All I have to do is point and let people figure it out for themselves. It’s far, far more eloquent than anything I might actually say.

I don’t make statements like that about threads based on second hand reports; I can read for myself, thank you very much.

Technocracygirl, all the other women in the picture are wearing blouses or tops that are more loose-fitting than the breast-clinging top Jessica was sporting, so I suggest those might be a model to look to re. what to wear when dining with a former POTUS. I certainly won’t be wearing tight-fitting, ball-hugging jeans if/when I’m invited to dine with Margaret Thatcher; more likely I’ll wear loose-fitting wool slacks, a white shirt and tie, and a sportcoat. It’s all a matter of common sense and personal responsibility.

And finally, Lynn, did you actually go the Althouse’s site and read the thread, or are you simply relying on reports from the feminist community re. what went on there? I went to Althouse’s site, read that thread and the related one, and know for a fact that the post was about the lame comments that the bloggers wrote after the meeting and only digressed into (IMO) a petty catfight after Jessica showed up at Althouse’s blog.

Since I disagree with the basic fundmanetal operating premises of the Feminist Ideology, though, I’m pretty safe to assume it’s a given. I’m just facing up to the reality.

Since it gets slapped on everything that is critical of feminism, don’t think I’m wearing it as a badge of pride or anything - it’s pretty much a watered down and meaningless label as a result of it being applied haphazardly and by reflex.

You nailed it when you described (in the post on All Saints and the IRS) Bush and former presidential candidate Kerry as “princes of this world.” We need to be so careful not to confuse our mission to practice God’s kingdom principles instead of putting our hope in presidents.

Sorry to mix threads here, but I think the two are related.

You keep asking us to slap you with this label. It’s as if you consider it a badge of pride.

Lots of feminists supported Clinton because they realized the people attacking him didn’t care about Monica Lewinsky, sexual harassment, or even adultery; they just wanted an excuse to kill Bill. (That’s an explanation, not an excuse, by the way.) It’s particularly vile that many of the same people freaked about Clinton were either themselves adulterers or embraced adulterers on their own side of the political chasm.

Ms. Valenti chose to wear a nice outfit with a modest neckline and cap sleeves. It is tailored to display her body, yes, but not in anything that wouldn’t easily pass muster on at least a casual Friday at an office.