Comments on: A radio interview, chin update, and a confession of love for Bobby Knight http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/ Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:58:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Abram http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28279 Abram Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:52:43 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28279 I was nervous to read this. I don't want there to be a defense for a man who represents to me the embodiment of raging, uncontrolled, masculinity (whether or not he actually is). I was content just being disgusted by him and hoping I would never meet him. But you defended his behavior, or at least tried reveal that he has a soul, and I appreciate that. It makes us all better individuals if we can neutralize (or at least realize) our own hateful prejudices (especially if we claim to be the ones without prejudices). I'll try to judge Knight less. I was nervous to read this. I don’t want there to be a defense for a man who represents to me the embodiment of raging, uncontrolled, masculinity (whether or not he actually is). I was content just being disgusted by him and hoping I would never meet him.

But you defended his behavior, or at least tried reveal that he has a soul, and I appreciate that. It makes us all better individuals if we can neutralize (or at least realize) our own hateful prejudices (especially if we claim to be the ones without prejudices). I’ll try to judge Knight less.

]]> By: djw http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28278 djw Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:25:58 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28278 Antigone, I give up. Spell it out for the non-net literate? Antigone, I give up. Spell it out for the non-net literate?

]]> By: Antigone http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28277 Antigone Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:54:32 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28277 SR: TPHMT. SR:

TPHMT.

]]> By: Hugo http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28276 Hugo Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:16:29 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28276 Yes, I will have a link up to Flickr when organized. Yes, I will have a link up to Flickr when organized.

]]> By: carlaviii http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28275 carlaviii Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:11:29 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28275 I don't know about everyone else here, but I'm anxiously awaiting photos of the baby chins... you'll post a link to Flickr when you're organized? I don’t know about everyone else here, but I’m anxiously awaiting photos of the baby chins… you’ll post a link to Flickr when you’re organized?

]]> By: Sociopathic Revelation http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28274 Sociopathic Revelation Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:59:12 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28274 "Why that is a reason for pushing men harder than women?" - Daran Western culture has always "pushed" men to perform, to sacrifice at the expense of themselves, for benefits to women, and to be responsible even for things they aren't personally involved in 24/7. I would love to see how women would do with the same pressure, and the heavy stigma as the result of not conforming with it. It's always been my belief they are given more choices, while men have been dumped with more responsibilities. Just look around you, not merely in textbooks. It's another double standard which is hiding in plain sight. I know someone will try to protest my assertion, but I don't care (obviously)---since I won't indulge in a flawewar to eschew a thread drift, I'll cut this post short. “Why that is a reason for pushing men harder than women?” - Daran

Western culture has always “pushed” men to perform, to sacrifice at the expense of themselves, for benefits to women, and to be responsible even for things they aren’t personally involved in 24/7.

I would love to see how women would do with the same pressure, and the heavy stigma as the result of not conforming with it. It’s always been my belief they are given more choices, while men have been dumped with more responsibilities. Just look around you, not merely in textbooks. It’s another double standard which is hiding in plain sight.

I know someone will try to protest my assertion, but I don’t care (obviously)—since I won’t indulge in a flawewar to eschew a thread drift, I’ll cut this post short.

]]> By: db1 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28273 db1 Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:29:28 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28273 Hugo- It's not other people that you should be trying to push... only yourself. Influence yourself, and let others do the same. I can't think of a worse role model than Bobby Knight... abusive, egotistical, and it appears, misogynist to boot. Nice call. Hugo-

It’s not other people that you should be trying to push… only yourself. Influence yourself, and let others do the same. I can’t think of a worse role model than Bobby Knight… abusive, egotistical, and it appears, misogynist to boot. Nice call.

]]> By: Daran http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28272 Daran Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:24:17 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28272 Hi Hugo, Two questions: What, apart from your sex and your qualified admiration for some controversial sports coaches, puts you outside the mainstream of feminism? "I push men hard. I push them harder than I push women not because I think women are weak, but because I am a man who knows first-hand that transformation is possible." Why that is a reason for pushing men harder than women? Hi Hugo,

Two questions: What, apart from your sex and your qualified admiration for some controversial sports coaches, puts you outside the mainstream of feminism?

“I push men hard. I push them harder than I push women not because I think women are weak, but because I am a man who knows first-hand that transformation is possible.”

Why that is a reason for pushing men harder than women?

]]> By: Hugo http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28271 Hugo Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:06:37 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28271 Well, maybe there's the "real" Bobby Knight, and my "fantasy" Bob Knight. I'm a notoriously bad judge of character. Oh, and I forgot to include Pat Summitt and John Gagliardi on my list of coaching heroes; I'm hoping no one sends me lists of their shortcomings! Well, maybe there’s the “real” Bobby Knight, and my “fantasy” Bob Knight. I’m a notoriously bad judge of character.

Oh, and I forgot to include Pat Summitt and John Gagliardi on my list of coaching heroes; I’m hoping no one sends me lists of their shortcomings!

]]> By: evil_fizz http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28270 evil_fizz Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:15:20 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2006/11/15/a-radio-interview-chin-update-and-a-confession-of-love-for-bobby-knight/#comment-28270 I had a coach who I very much admired in high school who attended a coaching clinic run by Knight. It was a very big deal for him, and he left at lunchtime because he found the entire thing so offensive. He also said that all of the women in attendance left by 10:00 am because Knight started the presentation by talking about how women didn't know shit about sports and used profanity and vulgarities about women until they all left. You're not a master teacher when you can't pass on your skills to other coaches because they find the rest of what you have to say so repugnant. He might have considerable success coaching basketball, but that's a pretty limited accomplishment in my mind. I had a coach who I very much admired in high school who attended a coaching clinic run by Knight. It was a very big deal for him, and he left at lunchtime because he found the entire thing so offensive. He also said that all of the women in attendance left by 10:00 am because Knight started the presentation by talking about how women didn’t know shit about sports and used profanity and vulgarities about women until they all left. You’re not a master teacher when you can’t pass on your skills to other coaches because they find the rest of what you have to say so repugnant. He might have considerable success coaching basketball, but that’s a pretty limited accomplishment in my mind.

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