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	<title>Comments on: Killing Kangaroos and rejecting Beckham</title>
	<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/</link>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-94344</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-94344</guid>
		<description>Wow...who would think that a shoe called "Predator" would use animal products?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;who would think that a shoe called &#8220;Predator&#8221; would use animal products?</p>
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		<title>By: The Gonzman</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62753</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gonzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62753</guid>
		<description>It's pretty nasty, IMO, but a lot of people like it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_(meat)

I guess they don't farm it, but the article states the hides are indeed also sold from culling operations, so anyone trying to paint a picture of skinned carcasses littering Australia is way off base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty nasty, IMO, but a lot of people like it.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_</a>(meat)</p>
<p>I guess they don&#8217;t farm it, but the article states the hides are indeed also sold from culling operations, so anyone trying to paint a picture of skinned carcasses littering Australia is way off base.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Giskard</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62649</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Giskard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62649</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since roo meat is eaten down under, I’d rather imagine a great deal of the hides come from slaughterhouses&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Eating Kangaroo?  I like some wild game but I think I'd have to pass on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since roo meat is eaten down under, I’d rather imagine a great deal of the hides come from slaughterhouses</p></blockquote>
<p>Eating Kangaroo?  I like some wild game but I think I&#8217;d have to pass on that.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gonzman</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62375</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gonzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62375</guid>
		<description>Oh - 

I rather suspect, too, that this is a tactic to increase waste disposal costs, thus increasing price, thus hoping to inflate finished good price and decrease consumption.  Be advised, then, that many ranchers are also farmers - increase the costs in the aniumal arena, and watch it get passed on in the plant foodstuffs - it's what my cousin does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh - </p>
<p>I rather suspect, too, that this is a tactic to increase waste disposal costs, thus increasing price, thus hoping to inflate finished good price and decrease consumption.  Be advised, then, that many ranchers are also farmers - increase the costs in the aniumal arena, and watch it get passed on in the plant foodstuffs - it&#8217;s what my cousin does.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gonzman</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62374</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gonzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62374</guid>
		<description>Since roo meat is eaten down under, I'd rather imagine a great deal of the hides come from slaughterhouses, I know most the leather I can buy comes from such sources (In fact, the leather I buy from the Amish guy does come from cows and pigs he has raised and slaughtered)  I know the animals I raise, and those I hunt, wind up having just about everything but the innards used.  I tan the skins, and have been known to use bones and teeth in primitive crafts.  (I sell drinking horns I carve to re-enactors).

It'd be a horrible waste if this wasn't the case, I have about as much use for hunters who take the meat and discard the rest as I do for trophy hunters, which is to say, none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since roo meat is eaten down under, I&#8217;d rather imagine a great deal of the hides come from slaughterhouses, I know most the leather I can buy comes from such sources (In fact, the leather I buy from the Amish guy does come from cows and pigs he has raised and slaughtered)  I know the animals I raise, and those I hunt, wind up having just about everything but the innards used.  I tan the skins, and have been known to use bones and teeth in primitive crafts.  (I sell drinking horns I carve to re-enactors).</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be a horrible waste if this wasn&#8217;t the case, I have about as much use for hunters who take the meat and discard the rest as I do for trophy hunters, which is to say, none.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62316</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 22:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62316</guid>
		<description>Well, that presumes a need to kill the mothers.  I question the entire premise of that.

Look, I don't value the life of a joey more than its mama.  Some animal rights activists argue for the "cuteness" factor.  But killing a grown animal for its skin or killing a juvenile animal because it can't survive on its own because you killed its mama for its skin  -- these are equally unacceptable.

I understand that nature is violent.  I understand that on a few, rare occasions, humans may have to kill animals -- such as to cull a herd that has massively outgrown its carrying capacity.  But I support burying those creatures, not taking their hides or flesh.  I am sure someone could make a nifty lampshade out of my hide when I die, but I'd rather they didn't.  And I'd rather Adidas not make soccer boots from kangaroos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that presumes a need to kill the mothers.  I question the entire premise of that.</p>
<p>Look, I don&#8217;t value the life of a joey more than its mama.  Some animal rights activists argue for the &#8220;cuteness&#8221; factor.  But killing a grown animal for its skin or killing a juvenile animal because it can&#8217;t survive on its own because you killed its mama for its skin  &#8212; these are equally unacceptable.</p>
<p>I understand that nature is violent.  I understand that on a few, rare occasions, humans may have to kill animals &#8212; such as to cull a herd that has massively outgrown its carrying capacity.  But I support burying those creatures, not taking their hides or flesh.  I am sure someone could make a nifty lampshade out of my hide when I die, but I&#8217;d rather they didn&#8217;t.  And I&#8217;d rather Adidas not make soccer boots from kangaroos.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chief</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62313</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 22:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62313</guid>
		<description>No it can't.  With a vulnerable child there are social services, public and private, that will care for the child and adopt it out if possible.  Contrary to animal rights activists attempt to conflate humanity with animals, there is no such organization run by kangaroos.

If there is a private human organization that is willing to take these joeys, bottle feed them, save them and give them to zoos to live out the rest of their natural lives I'd be all for it (most zoos only have limited space for so many kangaroos or any other type of animal, but still, might save a few).  But most animal rights activists are opposed to the existence of zoos too, so we're back to square one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it can&#8217;t.  With a vulnerable child there are social services, public and private, that will care for the child and adopt it out if possible.  Contrary to animal rights activists attempt to conflate humanity with animals, there is no such organization run by kangaroos.</p>
<p>If there is a private human organization that is willing to take these joeys, bottle feed them, save them and give them to zoos to live out the rest of their natural lives I&#8217;d be all for it (most zoos only have limited space for so many kangaroos or any other type of animal, but still, might save a few).  But most animal rights activists are opposed to the existence of zoos too, so we&#8217;re back to square one.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62283</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62283</guid>
		<description>Chief, the same could be said about any vulnerable child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chief, the same could be said about any vulnerable child.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chief</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62281</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62281</guid>
		<description>Most of this is a matter of whether you agree animals are suitable for human use or not, and nobody is likely to change anybody else's mind on the overall issue.  But I will make one point:  If the mother dies isn't it better to kill the baby (Joey, I believe they're called) with a quick, clean bullet to the head as opposed to letting it die from slow starvation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of this is a matter of whether you agree animals are suitable for human use or not, and nobody is likely to change anybody else&#8217;s mind on the overall issue.  But I will make one point:  If the mother dies isn&#8217;t it better to kill the baby (Joey, I believe they&#8217;re called) with a quick, clean bullet to the head as opposed to letting it die from slow starvation?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62273</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/30/killing-kangaroos-and-rejecting-beckham/#comment-62273</guid>
		<description>You bet, dude.  Why can't these people use the good old-fashioned pleather, like every other reputable sports shoe  manufacturer (forgive my sarcasm)?  No, honestly, if more spokesstars investigated what the brands they endorse do to manufacture their widgets, we'd have a much kinder sports industry.  And cheaper sneakers.

Of course, then, the CA dudes for my district (Assembly and Senate) always vote for big industry ... all hope lost there.

Thanks for the call to activism, Hugo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bet, dude.  Why can&#8217;t these people use the good old-fashioned pleather, like every other reputable sports shoe  manufacturer (forgive my sarcasm)?  No, honestly, if more spokesstars investigated what the brands they endorse do to manufacture their widgets, we&#8217;d have a much kinder sports industry.  And cheaper sneakers.</p>
<p>Of course, then, the CA dudes for my district (Assembly and Senate) always vote for big industry &#8230; all hope lost there.</p>
<p>Thanks for the call to activism, Hugo!</p>
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