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	<title>Comments on: Cal-Tennessee, masculinity, and another post in praise of Joe Ehrmann</title>
	<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/</link>
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		<title>By: davev</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-109952</link>
		<dc:creator>davev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love football, but I have my moments of doubt about the physical impact on the players. The concussions . . .the broken bones . . . 19 year old linemen with huge guts . . . the ligament injuries . . . sometimes paralysis and death.   Are all of these guys doing it out of their own free will or is societal pressure involved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love football, but I have my moments of doubt about the physical impact on the players. The concussions . . .the broken bones . . . 19 year old linemen with huge guts . . . the ligament injuries . . . sometimes paralysis and death.   Are all of these guys doing it out of their own free will or is societal pressure involved?</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-109529</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I feel your pain.  That game was just ... ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I feel your pain.  That game was just &#8230; ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-109323</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were the writer, I wouldn't use "masculine" or "mature" in that context, I'd use something along the lines of "focused" or "tenacious." In this case, I saw the antonym of "masculine" being "weak," not "feminine." If you changed the sentence to "for a chance to prove they were more talented, more competitive and 'less feminine' than they showed a year ago," it wouldn't make sense. It was poor choice of language, but I don't see much beyond that. Although maybe I feel that way because I watched Michigan play like a bunch of high school boys instead of the cool, collected college football veterans that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were the writer, I wouldn&#8217;t use &#8220;masculine&#8221; or &#8220;mature&#8221; in that context, I&#8217;d use something along the lines of &#8220;focused&#8221; or &#8220;tenacious.&#8221; In this case, I saw the antonym of &#8220;masculine&#8221; being &#8220;weak,&#8221; not &#8220;feminine.&#8221; If you changed the sentence to &#8220;for a chance to prove they were more talented, more competitive and &#8216;less feminine&#8217; than they showed a year ago,&#8221; it wouldn&#8217;t make sense. It was poor choice of language, but I don&#8217;t see much beyond that. Although maybe I feel that way because I watched Michigan play like a bunch of high school boys instead of the cool, collected college football veterans that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-109047</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Antigone. 

It could be argued that the antonym for "man" is "boy" rather than "woman". It is much harder to argue tthat the antonym for "masculine" is anything other than "feminine" or "effeminate".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Antigone. </p>
<p>It could be argued that the antonym for &#8220;man&#8221; is &#8220;boy&#8221; rather than &#8220;woman&#8221;. It is much harder to argue tthat the antonym for &#8220;masculine&#8221; is anything other than &#8220;feminine&#8221; or &#8220;effeminate&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Antigone</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-109045</link>
		<dc:creator>Antigone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, then wouldn't "mature" be the more appropriate term than "masculine"?  I've never heard anyone associate masculine with "more mature".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, then wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;mature&#8221; be the more appropriate term than &#8220;masculine&#8221;?  I&#8217;ve never heard anyone associate masculine with &#8220;more mature&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-108964</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;For those who are in the know, it is possibly the most physically demanding in the game (Though fullbacks will argue this), and gets a lot of well deserved respect.&lt;/i&gt;

It's a tough call.  I played fullback, but tight ends get my respect.  It's a very difficult position to play well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For those who are in the know, it is possibly the most physically demanding in the game (Though fullbacks will argue this), and gets a lot of well deserved respect.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough call.  I played fullback, but tight ends get my respect.  It&#8217;s a very difficult position to play well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-108820</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Buchanan's excerpt a few times, but I don't see his use of the word "masculine" in that context as being the opposite of feminine. Buchanan's language suggested to me that Cal matured as a team, developed a mental toughness that they showed this year against Tennessee that was lacking last year when the folded under similar circumstances. This year, they were not boys who couldn't answer back to a very persistent, gritty team that forces opponents to play the game their way. They were men who could respond to adversity and adapt to whatever an opposing team could cook up. 

There is a commercial that has been running during Chicago Cubs games that pushes a similar message. Amidst clips of Cubs batters hitting line drives and pitchers making people look foolish, it flashes the message, "Watch the boys of Summer become the men of Fall." For the last 99 years, the Cubs have been what you call the Boys of Summer. A team that looks good and shows promise through June, July, and August while there is no pressure on them. Yet come September and October, they have folded at some point every year since 1908. But for the first time in a while, they have the looks of a team ready to prove themselves as men who are unwilling to go home with their tails between their legs unless they left everything they have in them on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Buchanan&#8217;s excerpt a few times, but I don&#8217;t see his use of the word &#8220;masculine&#8221; in that context as being the opposite of feminine. Buchanan&#8217;s language suggested to me that Cal matured as a team, developed a mental toughness that they showed this year against Tennessee that was lacking last year when the folded under similar circumstances. This year, they were not boys who couldn&#8217;t answer back to a very persistent, gritty team that forces opponents to play the game their way. They were men who could respond to adversity and adapt to whatever an opposing team could cook up. </p>
<p>There is a commercial that has been running during Chicago Cubs games that pushes a similar message. Amidst clips of Cubs batters hitting line drives and pitchers making people look foolish, it flashes the message, &#8220;Watch the boys of Summer become the men of Fall.&#8221; For the last 99 years, the Cubs have been what you call the Boys of Summer. A team that looks good and shows promise through June, July, and August while there is no pressure on them. Yet come September and October, they have folded at some point every year since 1908. But for the first time in a while, they have the looks of a team ready to prove themselves as men who are unwilling to go home with their tails between their legs unless they left everything they have in them on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gonzman</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-108728</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gonzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - coached football for a couple years when I was a teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry - coached football for a couple years when I was a teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-108678</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonz, I know my football quite well, thanks.  I just enjoy the terminology!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonz, I know my football quite well, thanks.  I just enjoy the terminology!</p>
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		<title>By: The Gonzman</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/09/03/cal-tennessee-masculinity-and-another-post-in-praise-of-joe-ehrmann/#comment-108675</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gonzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who played tight end, it is called so because the tight end lines up as a lineman, and is called on to do receiving duty as well - often to be the relief valve if the other receivers are covered.  It's a no glory position.  Get slammed at the line, chucked by the linebacker, out seven yards, turn, catch, and be brutalized by every linebacker and what of the secondary can get their digs in too.

The split end is so called because they line up split away from the rest of the line, and is more often a fast and deep receiver.  Of course, in my day the other wide receiver was called a "tailback" or "Flanker back" but they were still a receiving back as opposed to a running back.

The term "tight end" is often the butt of jokes by those woefully ignorant of football.  For those who are in the know, it is possibly the most physically demanding in the game (Though fullbacks will argue this), and gets a lot of well deserved respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who played tight end, it is called so because the tight end lines up as a lineman, and is called on to do receiving duty as well - often to be the relief valve if the other receivers are covered.  It&#8217;s a no glory position.  Get slammed at the line, chucked by the linebacker, out seven yards, turn, catch, and be brutalized by every linebacker and what of the secondary can get their digs in too.</p>
<p>The split end is so called because they line up split away from the rest of the line, and is more often a fast and deep receiver.  Of course, in my day the other wide receiver was called a &#8220;tailback&#8221; or &#8220;Flanker back&#8221; but they were still a receiving back as opposed to a running back.</p>
<p>The term &#8220;tight end&#8221; is often the butt of jokes by those woefully ignorant of football.  For those who are in the know, it is possibly the most physically demanding in the game (Though fullbacks will argue this), and gets a lot of well deserved respect.</p>
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