I’m a little bleary-eyed this Tuesday morning. The cold I was fighting off all of last week settled on me with some force on Saturday, and it still lingers today. The onset of illness did not prevent my wife and me from taking a much-needed “short break” (as the English would say) — we gave ourselves 24 hours at a nearby hotel. No cell phones, no computers, just lots of rest and time for each other. We’ve been going non-stop at one thing or another since late August, and we needed a quick recharge before settling into the holiday frenzy that now looms.
Though his site is not work-safe for all, Figleaf has some very kind (and interesting) things to say about my recent post on a “passionately feminist” marriage.
And I’ve just finished Astrid Henry’s Not my Mother’s Sister: Generational Conflict and Third Wave Feminism (I learned about the Henry book from Courtney Martin at Feminsting.) The book explores the “mother-daughter” model to describe the conflict between two successive waves of feminism: the Second Wave of the 1960s and early ’70s and the Third Wave that began to emerge in the early 1990s. Feminists of the Second Wave (everyone from Betty Friedan to Shulamith Firestone) were born between 1920-1955; the Third Wave roughly corresponds to “Generation X” (1964-1981). Some folks, of course, now speak of a Fourth Wave. To outsiders, it all gets very confusing. Though imperfect, the Wikipedia definitions of Second and Third Wave feminism are helpful.
My mother was — and still is - in many respects a classic “Second Wave” feminist. Born in 1937, she graduated from Vassar in 1959, back when it was still an all-women’s college. She was influenced by the likes of Simone de Beauvoir and, later, Betty Friedan. My mother was active in the League of Women Voters, and joined the National Organization for Women more or less upon its 1966 inception. Throughout my early childhood, Ms. Magazine was on the coffee table. My mother had an enormous influence on my sense of what feminism was; indeed, even after all of these years of teaching women’s studies, when someone asks me for a mental image of a feminist I still see my mother, circa 1975: short hair, black wool turtleneck, smoking Vantage cigarettes, sitting at her desk in her study reading Hobbes. (I realize that in that image I have of Mom, she’s younger than I am now.)
Henry’s point is fairly straightforward: beginning in the early 1990s with writers as different as Katie Roiphe, Rene Denfield, and Naomi Wolf, feminists of “my” generation (born in the 1960s and early ’70s) began to publish a series of critical attacks on their “mother’s” feminism. This generation — my generation — shared the Second Wave commitment to women’s equality, but were eager to rebel against what they saw as certain feminist orthodoxies. Where an earlier generation of feminists embraced collective action, this new generation — or so it is often argued — favored the pursuit of individual happiness. Where an earlier generation of feminists was mistrustful of open displays of sexuality, worrying about the ways in which a sexualized culture exploited women, the Third Wavers embraced women’s sexual agency, talking frankly about desire and pleasure in ways that made their mothers uncomfortable. Where Second Wavers protested against porn, Third Wavers took a more nuanced approach, at times vigorously defending its redemptive potential. You get the idea. To over-generalize (something that Astrid Henry does try to avoid), Third Wave feminism at its most simplistic boiled down to a doctrine that saw “choice” as an ultimate good. It mattered less what was being chosen (or why) than that women had choices. That’s not fair to a great many young feminists who have written critically about “choice” (not as pro-lifers, mind you, but as theorists troubled by the idea that choices can ever be exercised outside of social constructs). It remains, however, a popular conception of the distinction between Third and Second Wavers.
Henry exposes a key problem in the writings of certain Third Wavers:
Younger feminists (Roiphe, Denfield, Wolf, etc.) often resists second-wave feminism through rebelling against an “internalized feminist governor”, one that may have very little relation to any particular feminist… this governor often goes unnamed and is just called “feminism”, an amorphous category that includes both everything and nothing.
Hah. That rang true. Henry’s book is filled with helpful insights into this generational conflict, even as she - at least at times — oversells the depth of the divide.
As the pro-feminist son of a feminist single mother, one of my more challenging ideological and theoretical journeys has been developing my own feminism. For most of my childhood, my mother’s life was the template for how I understood women. Even as I went through puberty and my first romantic and sexual relationships with women, my mother’s views of the world — and, in particular, of feminism — remained dominant. When I went off to college and started taking women’s studies courses in the mid-1980s, my professors at Berkeley were women my mother’s age.
Particularly in the upper-division classes I took on women’s studies, I noticed that at times a generational split would emerge between some of my female classmates and an older woman professor. It’s been twenty years, so the details of the arguments are hazy, but I remember feeling almost indignantly protective of the feminist instructors. My feminism was still very much in formation, but I knew that I believed in cross-generational solidarity. I came into these seminars to imbibe feminism from those who, like my mother, had fought on the front lines of the 1960s. I assumed that most of my female classmates wanted the same thing. Though I was happy to quibble about minor phlosophical points, I thought of a feminist classroom as being a place where an older feminist carefully steeped her students in the ideology and tactics of a movement. A certain amount of give-and-take was to be expected, but what I saw at times bordered on a kind of contemptuous rebellion, as if my classmates in the Reagan era were convinced that in some ways, this older generation that had come of age in the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations just didn’t “get it” at all.
A lot of that inter-generational conflict, of course, lay in the perception on the part of the younger women that the older generation were trying to impose “victimization” upon them. I’ll never forget a discussion — one that still shows up in my classes — in which we were, not surprisingly, discussing Andrea Dworkin. Dworkin made the case that the very language of heterosexual intercourse reflected its oppressiveness: “penetrate”, “enter”, “screw” were words of domination and control. A classmate, quoting Shere Hite, said “Yeah, but all you have to do to get rid of that mindset is change the vocabulary of sex to ‘engulf’, ‘envelop’, ’surround.’ Then women have all the power. It’s not reality Dworkin is talking about, it’s language!” This was back before Roiphe and Wolf had published their books, but some of my classmates (circa 1987-88) were already convinced that their “mothers” (Dworkin was a key “mom” figure even then) were trying to convince them that the world was more oppressive to women than it actually was.
As I took more and more gender studies courses and began to get involved in activism, I began to develop my own sense of what it meant to be a feminist. It never, however, involved rejecting my mother’s feminism, even as I eventually adopted positions that were markedly different from hers. Because I was a man, I didn’t worry about “becoming” my mother in a way that I think at least some women worry about turning into their moms. Biology, if nothing else, meant that both my mother and I knew our lives and our experiences would be very distinct. The feminism she gave me was the feminism a mother ought to give to a son: a call to reject privilege wherever possible and to be an active participant in the egalitarian struggle. But we both knew that our worldviews would end up being very different because our bodies and our acculturations were so different. As a result, I was free — free in a way that some of my female peers raised by feminist moms apparently were not — to accept or reject my mother’s politics without rancor.
In any event, I recommend Henry’s book with enthusiasm, particularly for those who are troubled by the often bitter internecine battles inside this big tent we call feminism.
Huh. Thanks for the review, Hugo–this is interesting. As a feminist born just after your cutoffs for the 3rd wave, this does certainly speak to some of the attitudes that I saw in my women’s studies classes in college.
I think there are also other fracture points then the ones you mention, although they’re pretty submerged–I’m a huge critic of “choice feminist” (or as I like to call it, iFeminism), and I still had a lot of irritation and anger with older feminists when I attended a NOW conference in college. In my case, I’d say a lot more of it has to do with tactics, and perhaps a more nuanced view of power/oppression on the part of younger feminists. As an example–I was very, very irritated that roughly 50% of the NOW conference I attended was about abortion. I’m hugely pro-choice, but I think that’s an issue that for a lot of reasons doesn’t necessarily inspire a lot of activism in younger women. The entire session on “reaching younger feminists on campus” was about how to tell these ignorant younger feminists that Roe could be overturned ANY DAY NOW, SERIOUSLY. I mean, clearly the problem was that we just failed to grasp the importance of the issue. As opposed to younger women having an opinion–gained after seeing what 30 years of wrangling with the courts had achieved–that while the legal system was important, it could never substitute for attitude change.
Incidentally, this is was also a point of contention between younger volunteers and older staffers at the domestic violence/sexual assault hotline I worked at–younger women were more likely to talk about the importance of reaching out to men, talking about positive models of consent, and not focusing solely on “lock ‘em up!”. Because while the ability to get relief through the legal system is important, it’s not enough to end domestic violence or sexual assault.
Thanks Courtney Martin and Hugo Schwyzer and Astrid Henry. I just read Not My Mother’s Sister. Generally, the generational conservativism of the book is motived by the frustrations of the generation gap. But Henry completely misses how Jennifer Baumgardner and Amy Richards model their “Third-Wave Manifesta: A Thirteen Point Agenda” after Elizabeth Cady Stanton’s and Lucretia Mott’s (et al) “Declaration of Sentiments.” The focus is on Baumgardner and Richards relieving second wavers of their mother guilt.
The best sentences of the book, then, are those at the end, where Henry leaves open the foresighted if back-glancing possibilities of conflict led by third wavers. Here’s the way she leaves us:
Conflict within feminism, even when posited as generational, should not be avoided. Some of feminism’s current struggles may very well be among women themselves and thus vitally necessary for feminists to examine in more detail. Unlike Roof, then, I do not think the solution to our current generational impasse is to sidestep the problem of generations in order to move on. Rather, we must continue to examine our generational differences and alliances in order to understand their psychological power for feminists.
Where I am in agreement with [Judith] Roof, however, is that the attention on generational differences has dramatically shifted feminism’s focus from external enemies to internal ones. If feminism is indeed like a family, it would be wise of us not to forget its absent father.
While not confined to generational waves, I think there is “bad” feminism. The problem of fathers is key. So here’s a blog post on that (with mention of mothers).
My mother was generally a 3rd wave feminist during 2nd wave’s heyday. My sister and I, who idenifty more with 2nd wave’s themes, have always butted heads with our mother. The sexual choice my mother preached for so long never really questioned the confines of her options. I don’t find this to be much different from any other third wave feminist I’ve encountered.
I will also say that my mother’s third waviness has always come out more in public, where “freedom” and “sexy” get coupled and celebrated in every sexist old-fashioned way–the contact high of attention reinforcing every last bit of it. But it is in private, when my mother feels the emotional tug of not being adequate, attractive, or god-forbid-”sexy” that she comes to my sister and I in tears and desperation. She is always comforted to hear that anything being “sexy” is as big a lie as women having smaller brains and the like.
Of course, she is back to old ways soon enough.
I’m very much with Gail Dines who asserts third wave feminism is about “capitulation.”
Indeed.
Hugo - My gut level immediate response comes, interestingly to your phrase:
“some of my classmates (circa 1987-88) were already convinced that their “mothers” (Dworkin was a key “mom” figure even then) were trying to convince them that the world was more oppressive to women than it actually was.”
My college classes (a year or two later than yours) engaged in similar debates. Many of the feminists on campus felt Dworkin in particular portrayed women as far weaker than they themselves felt. In Dworkin’s writing, women often seem incapable of taking any action to benefit themselves. Most of classmates responded negatively to that impression.
As a second-wave feminist, I have been regularly appalled by third-wave “feminists. I place the term in quotes because Hugo’s point that” it’s all about choice more than what that choice may be” for them that rings true for me. I have so often seen young women think that Girrrl Power is what feminism is. My feeling still is that feminism is about celebrating and nurturing who we really are- all of us- regardless of gender. What passes for feminism now is far more likely to be a narcissistic and selfish way of life…Better give an example-
I was visiting a UC campus and was delighted to see a feminist paper for young women. Most of the content turned out to be dismaying. What I remember most were several articles about how to one-up men . For instance, one girl felt “empowered” by toying with some poor schmo who bought her drinks- she flirted with him for the free booze and then sent him on his way with some insults. To disempower others in so petty and mean-spirited a way is not feminist. To me, this is the way of the Bratty Princess, not the way of the Goddess. When I was young, we valued dignity and respect for ourselves and gave it in kind.