Comments on: “Not a Presby, nor a Luth’ran” — an old Episcopal youth camp song http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:52:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Don Twentyman http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-285494 Don Twentyman Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:22:37 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-285494 I learned "I am an Anglican" at Cass Lake Camp in Minnesota back in the early 1950's, and always presumed that "white with foam" referred to emerging from total immersion baptism. I learned “I am an Anglican” at Cass Lake Camp in Minnesota back in the early 1950’s, and always presumed that “white with foam” referred to emerging from total immersion baptism.

]]> By: Katie http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-237013 Katie Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:24:24 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-237013 Funny, I went to a Congregational church in high school and he, too, poked fun at the Baptists (and occasionally Methodists) once in awhile. Having had experience with a Missionary Baptist churchgoing friend, the ribbing was always more than welcome. And in this case, definitely made me giggle. Thanks! Funny, I went to a Congregational church in high school and he, too, poked fun at the Baptists (and occasionally Methodists) once in awhile. Having had experience with a Missionary Baptist churchgoing friend, the ribbing was always more than welcome. And in this case, definitely made me giggle. Thanks!

]]> By: Lynn Gazis-Sax http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236964 Lynn Gazis-Sax Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:19:29 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236964 My uncle (an Episcopalian) likes to sing that song. On "frozen chosen," I always heard it as "God's frozen people." My uncle (an Episcopalian) likes to sing that song.

On “frozen chosen,” I always heard it as “God’s frozen people.”

]]> By: Hugo Schwyzer http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236946 Hugo Schwyzer Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:49:44 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236946 It's a playful, gentle jab at the Baptist penchant for exuberant preaching. It might have been even better (and more accurate) to say a "Pentecostal, white with foam", but that wouldn't scan. It's not that all Baptists are rabid fundies, but the stereotype is not entirely without truth. Anglicans in America often call themselves the "frozen chosen", referring to the historic WASPy penchant for all things solemn, subdued, and elegantly understated. It's all in good fun to point out differences in style. It’s a playful, gentle jab at the Baptist penchant for exuberant preaching. It might have been even better (and more accurate) to say a “Pentecostal, white with foam”, but that wouldn’t scan. It’s not that all Baptists are rabid fundies, but the stereotype is not entirely without truth.

Anglicans in America often call themselves the “frozen chosen”, referring to the historic WASPy penchant for all things solemn, subdued, and elegantly understated. It’s all in good fun to point out differences in style.

]]> By: Fred http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236942 Fred Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:45:09 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236942 Hugo, "Nor a Baptist, white with foam;" I don't understand the Baptist reference. Would you please explain it. Hugo,

“Nor a Baptist, white with foam;”

I don’t understand the Baptist reference. Would you please explain it.

]]> By: Hugo Schwyzer http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236896 Hugo Schwyzer Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:18:06 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236896 Interesting that the lyrics there are slightly different... thanks! Interesting that the lyrics there are slightly different… thanks!

]]> By: Livy http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236894 Livy Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:11:07 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/20/not-a-presby-nor-a-luthran-an-old-episcopal-youth-camp-song/#comment-236894 I did a little googling. From <a href="http://www.3cantors.com/3C-Silly.htm" rel="nofollow">this website:</a> "I Am An Anglican" was written in New York by an obscure group of Episcopalians, hence the tune. We Canadians admire their spirit, and wonder if the text was written because they got tired of the word "Episcopalian" and wanted to get back to the source." They don't give any date, but if the speculation is correct, I imagine it was written during the colonial/antimodernist periods in the interwar years? Of course, that's just speculation based on speculation. I did a little googling. From this website: “I Am An Anglican” was written in New York by an obscure group of Episcopalians, hence the tune. We Canadians admire their spirit, and wonder if the text was written because they got tired of the word “Episcopalian” and wanted to get back to the source.”

They don’t give any date, but if the speculation is correct, I imagine it was written during the colonial/antimodernist periods in the interwar years? Of course, that’s just speculation based on speculation.

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