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	<title>Comments on: Poking, plucking, popping: a note on the compulsive grooming of one&#8217;s beloved</title>
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		<title>By: shannontwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannontwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with KMTBerry and also with the urge to nurture:
"What?  You're going out of the house like that?!"  "let me fix that for you..." and it is kind of like Mom wiping your face with a saliva-dampened kleenex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with KMTBerry and also with the urge to nurture:<br />
&#8220;What?  You&#8217;re going out of the house like that?!&#8221;  &#8220;let me fix that for you&#8230;&#8221; and it is kind of like Mom wiping your face with a saliva-dampened kleenex.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't pull out hairs or pop pimples, but I do enjoy when my partner and I "wash" each other if we take a shower together.  I enjoy it because of the sensuality and affection that it shows for the other person.  It feels good (physically and emotionally) and it is a good excuse to touch my partner's body (in a very sensual but not necessarily sexual way), and for him to touch mine of course.

My partner has just started "grooming" me...plucking hairs that bother him.  He is quite obsessive in general, though.  Maybe it is an obsessive/compulsive thing??

In relation to Ed's comment, I dated a Filipino man for a while.  He also "groomed" me, but in a more general sense.  He liked to dry and brush my hair for me when I/we got out of the shower.  He liked me to do the same (he had long waist length straight hair.)

In response specifically to Hugo's situations... People who get involved with partners who are addicts (drugs, alcohol or otherwise) tend to have a very strong urge to nurture.  People who come from families who have problems with addiction as well tend to have a strong urge to nurture.  It is one of the aspects of the cycle (of coming from a family with addiction problems and getting into a relationship with addiction problems) that is most difficult to break.  

My family has problems with alcoholism and various other drugs at different points.  Alcohol has always been the foundation of the problem.  My mother left my father after 35 years and got back into a relationship with a man whom she completely takes care of.  The only difference is lack of alcohol and the violence that goes with it.  A brother of mine (the most responsible of the 3) has a tendency to get involved with women who need "to be taken care of" (emotionally and financially).  I rebelled against the urge to nurture someone physically when I started to realize where it got my mother.  However, I still have a tendency to attrack men who need a lot of emotional nurturing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t pull out hairs or pop pimples, but I do enjoy when my partner and I &#8220;wash&#8221; each other if we take a shower together.  I enjoy it because of the sensuality and affection that it shows for the other person.  It feels good (physically and emotionally) and it is a good excuse to touch my partner&#8217;s body (in a very sensual but not necessarily sexual way), and for him to touch mine of course.</p>
<p>My partner has just started &#8220;grooming&#8221; me&#8230;plucking hairs that bother him.  He is quite obsessive in general, though.  Maybe it is an obsessive/compulsive thing??</p>
<p>In relation to Ed&#8217;s comment, I dated a Filipino man for a while.  He also &#8220;groomed&#8221; me, but in a more general sense.  He liked to dry and brush my hair for me when I/we got out of the shower.  He liked me to do the same (he had long waist length straight hair.)</p>
<p>In response specifically to Hugo&#8217;s situations&#8230; People who get involved with partners who are addicts (drugs, alcohol or otherwise) tend to have a very strong urge to nurture.  People who come from families who have problems with addiction as well tend to have a strong urge to nurture.  It is one of the aspects of the cycle (of coming from a family with addiction problems and getting into a relationship with addiction problems) that is most difficult to break.  </p>
<p>My family has problems with alcoholism and various other drugs at different points.  Alcohol has always been the foundation of the problem.  My mother left my father after 35 years and got back into a relationship with a man whom she completely takes care of.  The only difference is lack of alcohol and the violence that goes with it.  A brother of mine (the most responsible of the 3) has a tendency to get involved with women who need &#8220;to be taken care of&#8221; (emotionally and financially).  I rebelled against the urge to nurture someone physically when I started to realize where it got my mother.  However, I still have a tendency to attrack men who need a lot of emotional nurturing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is totally normal in Bali and elsewhere in Southeast Asia, especially when hordes of people are looking for each other's head lice or gray hair. Also goes for pimples and hard to reach "stray" hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is totally normal in Bali and elsewhere in Southeast Asia, especially when hordes of people are looking for each other&#8217;s head lice or gray hair. Also goes for pimples and hard to reach &#8220;stray&#8221; hair.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not touch pimples (unless the other person actually requested help), but I love cleaning out the dried-up "aftermath" of, I guess, whiteheads. TMI, anyone? :) The more interesting data point here is that my SO, who is male, never used to do this until I started "cleaning him up", and now he took up the habit so enthusiastically himself that it really annoys me - it hurts like heck when he goes about policing my upper arm, but it has grown into a full-blown obsession on his part. 

I don't get the same urge when I see the hairs sprouting on my legs, for instance, so it's definitely not the POLICE POLICE habit in my case that other people have mentioned. It's more to do with showing care and familiarity, almost assuming the other's body as one's own, in a good way (ie ultimately respecting the other person's wishes). 

Oh yes, and we are not from the US, either. I suspect that US culture is more likely to influence people towards feeling revolted at the thought of picking and plopping others than to encourage them to engage in this. Physical impurities and imperfections are not as big a deal elsewhere - they aren't as likely to be equated with lack of hygiene in general (gleaming white theeth for instance are likely to be thought of as weird and unnatural rather than ideal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not touch pimples (unless the other person actually requested help), but I love cleaning out the dried-up &#8220;aftermath&#8221; of, I guess, whiteheads. TMI, anyone? :) The more interesting data point here is that my SO, who is male, never used to do this until I started &#8220;cleaning him up&#8221;, and now he took up the habit so enthusiastically himself that it really annoys me - it hurts like heck when he goes about policing my upper arm, but it has grown into a full-blown obsession on his part. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the same urge when I see the hairs sprouting on my legs, for instance, so it&#8217;s definitely not the POLICE POLICE habit in my case that other people have mentioned. It&#8217;s more to do with showing care and familiarity, almost assuming the other&#8217;s body as one&#8217;s own, in a good way (ie ultimately respecting the other person&#8217;s wishes). </p>
<p>Oh yes, and we are not from the US, either. I suspect that US culture is more likely to influence people towards feeling revolted at the thought of picking and plopping others than to encourage them to engage in this. Physical impurities and imperfections are not as big a deal elsewhere - they aren&#8217;t as likely to be equated with lack of hygiene in general (gleaming white theeth for instance are likely to be thought of as weird and unnatural rather than ideal).</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm.  Nother few data points: my husband does this to me all the time.  I wouldn't say it thrills me, but he seems to enjoy it so much I put up with it.  I've never done it except when someone asked, and then only reluctantly.  My parents used to do it for each other, at each other's request, when I was a kid and they were happily married.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  Nother few data points: my husband does this to me all the time.  I wouldn&#8217;t say it thrills me, but he seems to enjoy it so much I put up with it.  I&#8217;ve never done it except when someone asked, and then only reluctantly.  My parents used to do it for each other, at each other&#8217;s request, when I was a kid and they were happily married.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Marcotte</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/02/22/poking-plucking-popping-a-note-on-the-compulsive-grooming-of-ones-beloved/#comment-239457</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another data point: My mom used to like plucking my hair or popping my blackheads, at least when I was younger. She'd probably still do it, if I'd let her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another data point: My mom used to like plucking my hair or popping my blackheads, at least when I was younger. She&#8217;d probably still do it, if I&#8217;d let her.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Marcotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been a groomer in only one relationship.  I don't know why that one was different.  Maybe I was needier somehow.  *shrug*  It was the only relationship where I didn't feel a deep intellectual compatability, so perhaps I was compensating, looking for another way to bond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a groomer in only one relationship.  I don&#8217;t know why that one was different.  Maybe I was needier somehow.  *shrug*  It was the only relationship where I didn&#8217;t feel a deep intellectual compatability, so perhaps I was compensating, looking for another way to bond.</p>
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		<title>By: morpheme</title>
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		<dc:creator>morpheme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In three long term relationships I never experienced or initiated NMS (but I am a compulsive groomer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In three long term relationships I never experienced or initiated NMS (but I am a compulsive groomer).</p>
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		<title>By: Angiportus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angiportus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to add, thanks Hugo for kicking this out into the daylight.  I can understand grooming as an act of affection, but the idea of the body as eternally imperfect is a toxic one, and those procedures which border on unanesthetized surgery are OUT--except for consenting adults. 
 I hope some of you spread this link around.  I hope it helps bring on the day when doing this to an unconsenting child is not considered in any way hilarious, normal or right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add, thanks Hugo for kicking this out into the daylight.  I can understand grooming as an act of affection, but the idea of the body as eternally imperfect is a toxic one, and those procedures which border on unanesthetized surgery are OUT&#8211;except for consenting adults.<br />
 I hope some of you spread this link around.  I hope it helps bring on the day when doing this to an unconsenting child is not considered in any way hilarious, normal or right!</p>
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		<title>By: Jha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother did it to my brother and myself when we started having pimples. I very rarely pick at my brother's face (he asks me to pick at his back whenever I'm home, though - because he can't reach it. He picks his own face), but I do know I've gone at it on my partners' faces before. My first ex found it amusing and his blackheads drove me *insane* so I made him try out a Biore Pore Pack (which he sportively went along with). 

My most recent ex also underwent my grooming, and although I asked him over and over to tell me if it hurt, he never protested. I did it less and less as he grew into the habit of washing his face properly. Zits, in my family, have more to do with lack of hygiene than physical attractiveness. Blackheads are essentially dirt. Whiteheads are packs of oil under skin. Why anyone would want to walk around with those on is somewhat beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother did it to my brother and myself when we started having pimples. I very rarely pick at my brother&#8217;s face (he asks me to pick at his back whenever I&#8217;m home, though - because he can&#8217;t reach it. He picks his own face), but I do know I&#8217;ve gone at it on my partners&#8217; faces before. My first ex found it amusing and his blackheads drove me *insane* so I made him try out a Biore Pore Pack (which he sportively went along with). </p>
<p>My most recent ex also underwent my grooming, and although I asked him over and over to tell me if it hurt, he never protested. I did it less and less as he grew into the habit of washing his face properly. Zits, in my family, have more to do with lack of hygiene than physical attractiveness. Blackheads are essentially dirt. Whiteheads are packs of oil under skin. Why anyone would want to walk around with those on is somewhat beyond me.</p>
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