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	<title>Comments on: Of sweat and scent: in defense of infrequent bathing</title>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-253174</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of stereotyping, it seems to me that people in the US are far more concerned with body odor than most of the rest of the world. It seems to me that you equate "clean" with "having no personal smell at all", which I find very strange. Bodies do smell, they have a smell of their own even when freshly bathed, and in order to get rid of that smell you cover it up with colognes and perfumes. In my European opinion, keeping clean is certainly a good thing, but keeping completely non-smelly is something I can't quite wrap my head around.

I don't much like the smell of stale sweat, or tobacco smoke, but I much prefer the smell of a reasonably clean body to any cologne or perfume in the world. 

As for myself, I really like the way I smell when I've been spending half a day at the stables. The combined smells of horse, straw, hay, horse manure, the dust from the paddock, the grass from the fields, and my own sweat - they evoke the joy of being with the horses, plus, as you say, the smell of honest work. Unfortunately that predilection isn't shared by the rest of the household... so when I get home it's a shower and some deodorant - but no perfume or anything else to cover up the smell of human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of stereotyping, it seems to me that people in the US are far more concerned with body odor than most of the rest of the world. It seems to me that you equate &#8220;clean&#8221; with &#8220;having no personal smell at all&#8221;, which I find very strange. Bodies do smell, they have a smell of their own even when freshly bathed, and in order to get rid of that smell you cover it up with colognes and perfumes. In my European opinion, keeping clean is certainly a good thing, but keeping completely non-smelly is something I can&#8217;t quite wrap my head around.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t much like the smell of stale sweat, or tobacco smoke, but I much prefer the smell of a reasonably clean body to any cologne or perfume in the world. </p>
<p>As for myself, I really like the way I smell when I&#8217;ve been spending half a day at the stables. The combined smells of horse, straw, hay, horse manure, the dust from the paddock, the grass from the fields, and my own sweat - they evoke the joy of being with the horses, plus, as you say, the smell of honest work. Unfortunately that predilection isn&#8217;t shared by the rest of the household&#8230; so when I get home it&#8217;s a shower and some deodorant - but no perfume or anything else to cover up the smell of human.</p>
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		<title>By: Angiportus</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-251032</link>
		<dc:creator>Angiportus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking about those feminine deodorant sprays and douches--something I really don't know that much about save that the very idea sounds like an insult to half the species.  I have had more problems with the smell from compressed air systems at work, and people of both genders with bad breath.  
 I wash every day because I like feeling clean.  In the summer I wouldn't want to turn in feeling all sticky.  But I feel guilty about using so much water even though I take quick showers.  
 Thanks for the Balinese story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking about those feminine deodorant sprays and douches&#8211;something I really don&#8217;t know that much about save that the very idea sounds like an insult to half the species.  I have had more problems with the smell from compressed air systems at work, and people of both genders with bad breath.<br />
 I wash every day because I like feeling clean.  In the summer I wouldn&#8217;t want to turn in feeling all sticky.  But I feel guilty about using so much water even though I take quick showers.<br />
 Thanks for the Balinese story!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-250669</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I did note that Filipinos seemed to be exceptionally concerned with hygiene."

I do know that typically when Filipinas show signs of their first period, they don't really get the "birds and the bees" talk (it's not really necessary - they get that from town gossip, usually), but a talk about how their hygiene needs change from that point on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I did note that Filipinos seemed to be exceptionally concerned with hygiene.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do know that typically when Filipinas show signs of their first period, they don&#8217;t really get the &#8220;birds and the bees&#8221; talk (it&#8217;s not really necessary - they get that from town gossip, usually), but a talk about how their hygiene needs change from that point on.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-250650</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I bathed daily in the Phillippines.  I bathe daily most of the time; my wife and students like it that way.  Heck, when I'm doing two-a-day workouts, I bathe two or three times a day.  But I do that out of courtesy to those around me, not out of pleasure.

I did note that Filipinos seemed to be exceptionally concerned with hygiene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I bathed daily in the Phillippines.  I bathe daily most of the time; my wife and students like it that way.  Heck, when I&#8217;m doing two-a-day workouts, I bathe two or three times a day.  But I do that out of courtesy to those around me, not out of pleasure.</p>
<p>I did note that Filipinos seemed to be exceptionally concerned with hygiene.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-250642</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-250642</guid>
		<description>Did you bathe every day when you were in tropical locales such as Colombia or the Philippines?

In fact, a common greeting in Indonesia is "Sudah mandi?" (Have you bathed yet?). (You're expected to respond in the positive; if you respond in the negative, people will make no effort to hide their revulsion.) People bathe at least twice there - once in the morning and once during dusk/evening.

On the other side of the coin, there's a Balinese story about a particularly pungent villager who helped get his fellow villagers a large piece of land (known as Tenganan Pagringsingan) just by accompanying a court official with a particularly sensitive nose. The land was a reward for the villagers' discovery of the king's favorite horse, which was found dead. The king decreed that the villagers would get an expanse of land wherever the dead horse's odor could be detected. The court official was puzzled that the horse's odor was strong all the time the villager was with him. After deciding that the parcel of land was large enough, the official went home. With the official out of sight, the villager pulled out a chunk of the dead horse from beneath his clothing. So, I guess being funky does have its advantages - but notice that the funk came from an outside source in this particular story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you bathe every day when you were in tropical locales such as Colombia or the Philippines?</p>
<p>In fact, a common greeting in Indonesia is &#8220;Sudah mandi?&#8221; (Have you bathed yet?). (You&#8217;re expected to respond in the positive; if you respond in the negative, people will make no effort to hide their revulsion.) People bathe at least twice there - once in the morning and once during dusk/evening.</p>
<p>On the other side of the coin, there&#8217;s a Balinese story about a particularly pungent villager who helped get his fellow villagers a large piece of land (known as Tenganan Pagringsingan) just by accompanying a court official with a particularly sensitive nose. The land was a reward for the villagers&#8217; discovery of the king&#8217;s favorite horse, which was found dead. The king decreed that the villagers would get an expanse of land wherever the dead horse&#8217;s odor could be detected. The court official was puzzled that the horse&#8217;s odor was strong all the time the villager was with him. After deciding that the parcel of land was large enough, the official went home. With the official out of sight, the villager pulled out a chunk of the dead horse from beneath his clothing. So, I guess being funky does have its advantages - but notice that the funk came from an outside source in this particular story.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-250092</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-250092</guid>
		<description>Angiportus, can't say I've heard of what you're talking about either.

Unless it's got to do with, erm, scented washes and the like; I've only heard of &lt;i&gt;those&lt;/i&gt; in the context of my elders repeatedly telling my generation they're silly and a risk for infection.  (I'm a current college student, and recognize that I've been a bit sheltered so it's possible they're more popular in poorer areas and the like.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angiportus, can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve heard of what you&#8217;re talking about either.</p>
<p>Unless it&#8217;s got to do with, erm, scented washes and the like; I&#8217;ve only heard of <i>those</i> in the context of my elders repeatedly telling my generation they&#8217;re silly and a risk for infection.  (I&#8217;m a current college student, and recognize that I&#8217;ve been a bit sheltered so it&#8217;s possible they&#8217;re more popular in poorer areas and the like.)</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-249051</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like being clean, and generally shower every day, but I like those three day weekends where I shower on Friday morning and then not until Tuesday morning before work starts back up, too.  I think it's good for the body not to be scrubbed down all the time.  Although, that said, in those weekends, I rarely work up much of a "pong," but still, I like to revel in my uncleanliness as well.  Glad I'm not the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like being clean, and generally shower every day, but I like those three day weekends where I shower on Friday morning and then not until Tuesday morning before work starts back up, too.  I think it&#8217;s good for the body not to be scrubbed down all the time.  Although, that said, in those weekends, I rarely work up much of a &#8220;pong,&#8221; but still, I like to revel in my uncleanliness as well.  Glad I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslee</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-247876</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor, this is disgusting.  Funny, but disgusting.  THANK F-ing GOD you bathe for your students and your wife.  The one or two times I've been close to you in office hours you smelled great, nice cologne or something.  How bizarre to think that youre so different when your left to your own devises!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor, this is disgusting.  Funny, but disgusting.  THANK F-ing GOD you bathe for your students and your wife.  The one or two times I&#8217;ve been close to you in office hours you smelled great, nice cologne or something.  How bizarre to think that youre so different when your left to your own devises!</p>
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		<title>By: Essi</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-247686</link>
		<dc:creator>Essi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; "only one gender is pressured to buy special deodorants for their private parts"

Really? Is that common in USA these days? There's actual deodorants being made for the lower regions? This is the first I've heard of the whole thing. I'm European myself and sure hope that trend doesn't come over here too.

Back in the 1980s I used to take a shower perhaps twice a week and that was normal for everybody. When I was leaving to be an exchange student in USA, one of the things the councellors stressed on us was 'remember that americans wash every day and if you don't, you'll be shunned'. We thought it was a bit weird at the time. Nowadays though everybody washes every day here too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; &#8220;only one gender is pressured to buy special deodorants for their private parts&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Is that common in USA these days? There&#8217;s actual deodorants being made for the lower regions? This is the first I&#8217;ve heard of the whole thing. I&#8217;m European myself and sure hope that trend doesn&#8217;t come over here too.</p>
<p>Back in the 1980s I used to take a shower perhaps twice a week and that was normal for everybody. When I was leaving to be an exchange student in USA, one of the things the councellors stressed on us was &#8216;remember that americans wash every day and if you don&#8217;t, you&#8217;ll be shunned&#8217;. We thought it was a bit weird at the time. Nowadays though everybody washes every day here too.</p>
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		<title>By: La Lubu</title>
		<link>http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/03/01/of-sweat-and-scent-in-defense-of-infrequent-bathing/#comment-247676</link>
		<dc:creator>La Lubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Pong?" I thought that was the first video game! We call it "funk" or "B.O." around here---although I can get "pong", because the smell of it is like a slap upside the head!

Can't say I'm with you on this one---when I've been doing heavy sweating, I can't wait to get in the shower. For me, there's nothing better than getting the oil slick and dirt off my body, and smelling like fresh, clean &lt;i&gt;skin&lt;/i&gt; again. Even more than the smell of day-old sweat, I hate the &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt; of it. And B.O. is the polar opposite of an aphrodisiac for me. Armpit odor so strong you can chin yourself on it? No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pong?&#8221; I thought that was the first video game! We call it &#8220;funk&#8221; or &#8220;B.O.&#8221; around here&#8212;although I can get &#8220;pong&#8221;, because the smell of it is like a slap upside the head!</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m with you on this one&#8212;when I&#8217;ve been doing heavy sweating, I can&#8217;t wait to get in the shower. For me, there&#8217;s nothing better than getting the oil slick and dirt off my body, and smelling like fresh, clean <i>skin</i> again. Even more than the smell of day-old sweat, I hate the <i>feel</i> of it. And B.O. is the polar opposite of an aphrodisiac for me. Armpit odor so strong you can chin yourself on it? No thanks.</p>
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