Comments on: Irony-free in SB http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/ Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:30:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Stentor http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296368 Stentor Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:01:05 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296368 I think "earnest, sweet, doctrinally vague" as well as "banal" describe the mainline protestant churches I've been to just as well as the UU ones. I think “earnest, sweet, doctrinally vague” as well as “banal” describe the mainline protestant churches I’ve been to just as well as the UU ones.

]]> By: Antigone http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296177 Antigone Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:26:19 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296177 Hey, when it comes to religion I'd rather have sweet, well-meaning but banal kumbya than "well-meaning", bigoted, and hurtful fundamentalist. Hey, when it comes to religion I’d rather have sweet, well-meaning but banal kumbya than “well-meaning”, bigoted, and hurtful fundamentalist.

]]> By: Luis http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296116 Luis Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:07:30 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296116 </i>Crap, forgot to close the <i> tag. Crap, forgot to close the <i> tag.

]]> By: Luis http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296114 Luis Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:06:40 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296114 Hmm. <i>I sang "Kum ba yah" at Presbyterian summer camp. Anyway, Hugo, you nail it. The UUs provide a thoughtful, nonthreatening spiritual home for people who've been badly burned by (or who have an innate horror of) more creedal faiths. But, Lord, Lord, their stuff is full of clichés. And so very, very banal. I discovered this not long ago at a Solstice service that did more to put me to sleep than to remind me of happy bygone days in my neopagan young adulthood. Still, they mean absolutely no harm to anyone, and they are always very kind. I find myself on that funny cusp between joyfully apprehending the sacred and absolutely loathing creedal religion, but UUism doesn't cut it for me. Over the last few years, I've found that flaming liberal manifestations of Episcopalianism work pretty well. I used to go to St. Augustine-by-the-Sea in Santa Monica when I lived in L.A., and I miss it (and Hartshorn Murphy) a very great deal. Hmm. I sang “Kum ba yah” at Presbyterian summer camp.

Anyway, Hugo, you nail it. The UUs provide a thoughtful, nonthreatening spiritual home for people who’ve been badly burned by (or who have an innate horror of) more creedal faiths. But, Lord, Lord, their stuff is full of clichés. And so very, very banal. I discovered this not long ago at a Solstice service that did more to put me to sleep than to remind me of happy bygone days in my neopagan young adulthood. Still, they mean absolutely no harm to anyone, and they are always very kind.

I find myself on that funny cusp between joyfully apprehending the sacred and absolutely loathing creedal religion, but UUism doesn’t cut it for me. Over the last few years, I’ve found that flaming liberal manifestations of Episcopalianism work pretty well. I used to go to St. Augustine-by-the-Sea in Santa Monica when I lived in L.A., and I miss it (and Hartshorn Murphy) a very great deal.

]]> By: ks http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296064 ks Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:12:10 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-296064 I've only ever done that in summer camp when I was a kid. But never as an adult in church (of course, I rarely go to church as an adult--only for weddings, funerals, and baptisms, but that's a separate thing). I’ve only ever done that in summer camp when I was a kid. But never as an adult in church (of course, I rarely go to church as an adult–only for weddings, funerals, and baptisms, but that’s a separate thing).

]]> By: Sweating Through Fog http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-295967 Sweating Through Fog Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:06:08 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-295967 I actually did hold hands and sing Kumbuya back in Catholic High School in the late sixties. I don;t miss it! I actually did hold hands and sing Kumbuya back in Catholic High School in the late sixties.

I don;t miss it!

]]> By: Fr Chris http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-295638 Fr Chris Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:03:37 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/06/irony-free-in-sb/#comment-295638 Amusingly, the only times I've ever sung Kumbaya in church have been in Missouri Synod congregations as a child. I don't remember whether we held hands. :-) Amusingly, the only times I’ve ever sung Kumbaya in church have been in Missouri Synod congregations as a child. I don’t remember whether we held hands. :-)

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