Comments on: Home late Monday, and links http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/18/home-late-monday-and-links/ Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:17:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Angiportus http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/18/home-late-monday-and-links/#comment-317895 Angiportus Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:59:00 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/18/home-late-monday-and-links/#comment-317895 If something makes you happy and hurts/upsets no one else, it is not a "poor esthetic choice", however unusual it might be. Nor a "guilty pleasure", for no one need feel guilty about emotional responses they can't help. I liked some stuff when young that I don't now, but the changes over the decades have mostly been the other way--adding new ones. If something makes you happy and hurts/upsets no one else, it is not a “poor esthetic choice”, however unusual it might be. Nor a “guilty pleasure”, for no one need feel guilty about emotional responses they can’t help. I liked some stuff when young that I don’t now, but the changes over the decades have mostly been the other way–adding new ones.

]]> By: dearwhitefeminists http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/18/home-late-monday-and-links/#comment-315599 dearwhitefeminists Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:44:02 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/18/home-late-monday-and-links/#comment-315599 Re: the "attribution/appropriation" wars: http://dearwhitefeminists.wordpress.com/ John Spragge is right. It's way past time for those of us with privilege (especially those of us with big blogs) to recognize the reasons that women of color like BFP are done with us, and to change our behavior. We should not be fighting women of color. We should not be divided. What does it make us when the blogosphere is split between WoC and white feminists? Oppressors. Re: the “attribution/appropriation” wars:

http://dearwhitefeminists.wordpress.com/

John Spragge is right. It’s way past time for those of us with privilege (especially those of us with big blogs) to recognize the reasons that women of color like BFP are done with us, and to change our behavior. We should not be fighting women of color. We should not be divided. What does it make us when the blogosphere is split between WoC and white feminists?

Oppressors.

]]> By: John Spragge http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/18/home-late-monday-and-links/#comment-313820 John Spragge Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:48:07 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/18/home-late-monday-and-links/#comment-313820 Hugo, if I thought I could deal with my "white" privilege by writing a song about it, or that I could make an analogy between the personal observation that goes into art and the intensely political process of packaging, defining, and presenting ideas in their pipeline from marginal origins to lucrative mainstream, then I'd agree with the substance of your analogy. If I understood how you could conflate the conflict that has given rise to the pain and rage expressed in the post you link to by "Brownfemipower" with the self-awareness and personal observation of a good writer, then may your analogy would not sound incredibly insensitive to me. And if I had not read the pain that sounded through the pages of several associated web logs, I might hold back from the temptation to say that the time has come for impartial judgement and fairness, and that a point comes where defending your friends ceases to qualify as personal loyalty and changes into bias, excuse making, and upholding privilege. But I don't, so I won't. Hugo, if I thought I could deal with my “white” privilege by writing a song about it, or that I could make an analogy between the personal observation that goes into art and the intensely political process of packaging, defining, and presenting ideas in their pipeline from marginal origins to lucrative mainstream, then I’d agree with the substance of your analogy. If I understood how you could conflate the conflict that has given rise to the pain and rage expressed in the post you link to by “Brownfemipower” with the self-awareness and personal observation of a good writer, then may your analogy would not sound incredibly insensitive to me. And if I had not read the pain that sounded through the pages of several associated web logs, I might hold back from the temptation to say that the time has come for impartial judgement and fairness, and that a point comes where defending your friends ceases to qualify as personal loyalty and changes into bias, excuse making, and upholding privilege.

But I don’t, so I won’t.

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