Comments on: Go to Claudette http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:49:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Mermade http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-324017 Mermade Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:06:19 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-324017 I love that song, Manju. And I am seriously considering going to that writer's workshop. I love that song, Manju.

And I am seriously considering going to that writer’s workshop.

]]> By: Manju http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-324011 Manju Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:37:40 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-324011 We gonna rock down to Electric Avenue, and then we'll take it higher. We gonna rock down to Electric Avenue, and then we’ll take it higher.

]]> By: Hugo Schwyzer http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-323927 Hugo Schwyzer Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:05:51 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-323927 Fred, I'll post on whiteness, as I understand it, this week. Fred, I’ll post on whiteness, as I understand it, this week.

]]> By: Fred http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-323897 Fred Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:49:53 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-323897 Off topic also. Maybe it is a matter of semantics, but I do not completely understand your comment on whiteness. "I have willfully refused to reject, renounce, or even seriously reflect upon my whiteness." Skin pigmentation is an immutable trait, so what is there to reject or renounce. Should people also renounce their "blackness"? Or is “whiteness” some kind of euphemism for being a racial bigot? Off topic also.

Maybe it is a matter of semantics, but I do not completely understand your comment on whiteness. “I have willfully refused to reject, renounce, or even seriously reflect upon my whiteness.” Skin pigmentation is an immutable trait, so what is there to reject or renounce. Should people also renounce their “blackness”? Or is “whiteness” some kind of euphemism for being a racial bigot?

]]> By: Oriscus http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-323590 Oriscus Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:31:48 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/04/26/go-to-claudette-2/#comment-323590 Thanks, Hugo, your previous post was one of the more honest things I've ever seen anybody post. I'm a southern white man with class and race resentments out the wazz. I reflexivelly mistrust anyone who claims they are not racist - black, brown or especially white. The trick is to see, claim and engage with one's own racism. I mean, it's older than we are. It is not a product of our own, or even our past couple generations' experience, it is a big deal. It devolves to Eliminationism on the left as well as the right - especially the Right. Hugo, I am one of those who, very occasionally, when I do bother to post, chides you for your class-based inability to see through my eyes. I keep coming back here, not because I'm some MRA asshole (um, bubba, I've been selling those guys alcohol for 20 years, and their complaints are real, though their enemy is the Patriarchy, not "those bitches" who've stiffed them, though I can't tell them that in a way they can hear, nor are you helping) who wants to bait you, but because your struggle (outrageously, grotesquely privileged though you may have been) may have lessons for my own. Be well. I'll come back. Feel free to delete this. It is off topic, after all. Thank you Oriscus hpb Austin, TX Thanks, Hugo, your previous post was one of the more honest things I’ve ever seen anybody post.

I’m a southern white man with class and race resentments out the wazz.

I reflexivelly mistrust anyone who claims they are not racist - black, brown or especially white. The trick is to see, claim and engage with one’s own racism. I mean, it’s older than we are. It is not a product of our own, or even our past couple generations’ experience, it is a big deal. It devolves to Eliminationism on the left as well as the right - especially the Right.

Hugo, I am one of those who, very occasionally, when I do bother to post, chides you for your class-based inability to see through my eyes. I keep coming back here, not because I’m some MRA asshole (um, bubba, I’ve been selling those guys alcohol for 20 years, and their complaints are real, though their enemy is the Patriarchy, not “those bitches” who’ve stiffed them, though I can’t tell them that in a way they can hear, nor are you helping) who wants to bait you, but because your struggle (outrageously, grotesquely privileged though you may have been) may have lessons for my own.

Be well. I’ll come back.

Feel free to delete this. It is off topic, after all.

Thank you

Oriscus
hpb
Austin, TX

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