Comments on: Early good news

By: Hugo Schwyzer

Hugo Schwyzer — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:43:17 +0000

Stentor’s technically right. What will make November 2008 different (deo volente, baruch hashem, etc.) is that in a state where marriage is already a reality for same-sex couples, voters will be asked to either dissolve those marriages or embrace them. And if they embrace them, as I suspect they will (by a narrow margin, natch), the religious right will have lost their key argument that the voters of a state had never given straight (sorry) approval to gay marriages.

By: Craig

Craig — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:48:00 +0000

Wait, by “anti-marriage,” did you mean “against gay marriage?” If so, ignore that last message; I’m too used to hearing this discussion through the “pro-family” dialect.

By: Craig

Craig — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:44:57 +0000

…we in Arizona defeated an anti-marriage ballot measure in 2006.

Arizona is a pretty standard red state. California, not so much.

By: Stentor

Stentor — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:28:54 +0000

it looks like gay marriage is en route to its first ever victory at the ballot box.

Not so fast there — we in Arizona defeated an anti-marriage ballot measure in 2006.

By: Mermade

Mermade — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:34:18 +0000

Indeed! ;-)

By: Hugo Schwyzer

Hugo Schwyzer — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:42:04 +0000

Indeed. How often have progressives found a way to snatch defeat from near-certain victory? The tally of disappointments is great indeed.

By: Craig

Craig — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:27:16 +0000

I’ll believe that when I see it. One can’t be too pessimistic regarding politics, I always say.