Continuing the theme of yesterday…I love me my complementarians:
Why is it that abortion is so prevalent and accepted in America today? What are the reasons that women “choose” to abort their babies rather than give birth to them and mother them? It wasn’t because one day a madness overtook the female sex and caused them to turn on their young. It was much more insidious and slow-moving than that. There are many moments we could point to in history, beginning with Eve’s emancipation by eating the forbidden fruit, for the genesis of the impulse to selfishly rid oneself of every encumbrance, including male headship and clinging children. But I think that the acceptance of abortion can trace its foundations more to Rosie the Riveter than to Roe v. Wade, which was only the culmination of independent roots that finally blossomed into wholesale slaughter of innocent children. Governor Palin leaving her home to become governor of Alaska, and “choosing” to run for second-in-command of the most powerful nation on earth, is not a coup for the prolife cause, despite her personal convictions, but it is the death knell of the the biblical family as an American institution, and will only bring grief to those who are trying to hold together the shreds of that family vision in the midst of a perverse society.
Bold emphasis mine.
Is it just liberal wishful thinking that leads me to suggest that these views are held by a not-insubstantial percentage of very conservative Christians? I don’t think so. The majority of evangelicals don’t have a problem with the notion of a woman president or vice-president. But in a very close election, the refusal of a few very traditional complementarians to vote for a woman on a national ticket could prove decisive.
And I’m done with this topic.
Well, not to beat a dead horse…
I have perused this blog a few times but never felt the need to join in the chatter. After reading your blog today, I felt compelled to look up the rest of the article based on the your featured excerpt. My jaw just dropped. I try and remain tolerant of those with differing opinions but felt as if I dropped in some sort of timewarp. And I live in the Midwest–not the most enlightened part of the nation–this was no easy feat.
Unfortunately, there will always be naysayers, whether by personal prejudice or religious design, that believe that women cannot accomplish what men can. In my humble opinion, the bigger travesty is when women are not given the chance to try.
You know, after reading that title, I instantly had a reply mapped out. I’d point out that it was really all Eve’s fault, seeing as Rosie was just a fictional character (snarkily opposed to Eve, replete with reference to “evilutionism”).
Then I kept reading and saw the jerk beat me to the punch. Probably should have seen that coming.
Anyone who believes it is “selfish” for a woman to want something other than being dependent on a husband-daddy all her life is really beyond all reason.
I’m not sure this will even make it to an election. Palin’s fitness for the post, along with the now recognized hastiness and lack of care put into researching Palin’s background by McCain’s staff, makes me wonder if she’ll even last the week. The list of questions grows and grows (like her support of Buchanan and, earlier, the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party, the Troopergate scandal, conflict of interest over her husband’s connections to BP while she was in office, her chummy relationship with indicted Senator Ted Stevens, her changing her story on her desire for the Bridge to Nowhere and other earmarks for political gain, etc.). And while I don’t think it should be an issue, the fact that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant can’t help her with the “family values” crowd she was supposed to attract.
I’m not predicting, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we had a new, boring, and male candidate for GOP Veep pretty soon.
Biblical model of the family? Huh? They’re kidding, right?
On the sarcastic side, the Biblical model includes concubines and multiple wives.
On the realistic side, it’s clans, not the nuclear family.
But the absolute death of this “stay-at-home mom is God’s will” nonsense is Proverbs 31. The woman who tries to have it all — family and business career outside the home — ain’t a modern invention.
I sort of wish these sorts of conservative Christians would read the entire Bible instead of just picking on bits and pieces to support their prejudices.
@Indecisive -
The media narrative seems to be that most conservatives are perfectly happy with Palin. Neither complementarian voices nor critiques of the cognitive dissonance of opponents of abortion praising Bristol Palin’s choice seem to be showing up. At least according to the media narrative, there’s no reason to drop Palin at this point.
Has there ever been a change of VP after the first pick? My political memory does not go back far enough to determine if this hullabaloo is par for the course or entirely new.
I would add that I tried to compose a response to the article Hugo quoted in this blog entry, but couldn’t come up with anything that didn’t sound like I was shrieking at the top of my lungs. Then I figured that most people who visit Hugo’s site would agree with me anyways, so I just took a deep breath and counted to 10.
Truly scary that some people really think that way, and I think characterizing the current climate as having “accepted” abortions is incorrect. But good luck getting someone THAT far right to acknowledge that pro-choice does NOT mean pro-abortion. We accept that a woman has full control over her body. That doesn’t mean that we’re complacent about abortions - I’m sure every pro-choice person welcomes the day that every child conceived is a wanted child.
“Has there ever been a change of VP after the first pick? My political memory does not go back far enough to determine if this hullabaloo is par for the course or entirely new.”
McGovern first picked Eagleton in ‘72, then had to switch to Shriver.
I think the left is getting way ahead of themselves here. There are millions of voters who relate strongly to people like Palin. The fact that she is drawing hatred from the left will make them love her even more.
Unless something else comes out, like a true scandal, or the left manages to flush out some real dirt on her children, she’ll be fine.
STF, did you bother to read Hugo’s post? That criticism of Palin was not written by “the left”. It’s not “the left” that is fussing about how Palin is harming her children by having a *gasp* leadership position.