Comments on: The crowded “cloud of witnesses”: of ex-lovers, ex-wives, and the call to grow http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:45:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Noli Irritare Leones » Blog Archive » Presidential sex symbols, where old lovers go, and men’s and women’s cheating hearts http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-467804 Noli Irritare Leones » Blog Archive » Presidential sex symbols, where old lovers go, and men’s and women’s cheating hearts Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:11:22 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-467804 [...] had a recent post about where ex-lovers and ex-wives go. With three ex-wives, three ex-live-ins, and about eight or nine exes he’d say he was [...] […] had a recent post about where ex-lovers and ex-wives go. With three ex-wives, three ex-live-ins, and about eight or nine exes he’d say he was […]

]]> By: Cynthia http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-467222 Cynthia Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:48:12 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-467222 Thanks Hugo. Lovely post and one I needed to read right about now, missing my mom, pushing myself into change for the good, challenging my focus as a parent. Best. Thanks Hugo. Lovely post and one I needed to read right about now, missing my mom, pushing myself into change for the good, challenging my focus as a parent. Best.

]]> By: CarlosCS http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466448 CarlosCS Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:13:34 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466448 Remarkable post. Your wife today must be a very understanding person. Remarkable post. Your wife today must be a very understanding person.

]]> By: Funt Of A Thousand Faces http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466300 Funt Of A Thousand Faces Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:10:23 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466300 Maybe you put more effort into it and in your mind you were 'faking', but it wasn't artificial. In fact, to me that is 'the real Hugo'. Maybe you put more effort into it and in your mind you were ‘faking’, but it wasn’t artificial. In fact, to me that is ‘the real Hugo’.

]]> By: Hugo Schwyzer http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466288 Hugo Schwyzer Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:43:45 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466288 FOATF, in a sense you're right -- our real selves are compoosed of many parts, and the public face we put on is in some sense just as real as the one we choose to wear when we know one else is around. On the other hand, my public self was much more consciously artificial. FOATF, in a sense you’re right — our real selves are compoosed of many parts, and the public face we put on is in some sense just as real as the one we choose to wear when we know one else is around.

On the other hand, my public self was much more consciously artificial.

]]> By: Funt Of A Thousand Faces http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466212 Funt Of A Thousand Faces Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:01:17 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466212 Will the real Hugo please stand up? Will the real Hugo please stand up?

]]> By: Funt Of A Thousand Faces http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466211 Funt Of A Thousand Faces Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:00:32 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466211 Why is the old Hugo that was hell to live with 'The Real Hugo' and the public one not 'The Real Hugo'? What makes one more real than the other? Why is the old Hugo that was hell to live with ‘The Real Hugo’ and the public one not ‘The Real Hugo’? What makes one more real than the other?

]]> By: Erica http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466053 Erica Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:14:19 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466053 Hugo! this helps. Hugo!
this helps.

]]> By: whitewashasian http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466017 whitewashasian Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:26:07 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466017 hmm, i agree with you on carrying past lovers' influences. as much as i hate to admit it, i've learned and explored many things through men. music, art, books, new ways of looking at life. when i think about them, i almost instantly think about what they did to change me-and it's usually for the better. i think everybody's just a little narcissistic hoping that they've also left a past impression on their exes too. btw, i also had the nosy ghost phobia when i was a kid. except it also included jesus and god, and i blame my sunday school teacher. they need to modify the whole "all-knowing" to "all-knowing-important-things." they also made a family guy joke about it too, but i can't find the clip. it's hilarious. Francis: I know what you're doing in there, and it's a sin! If you ever do it again, you'll burn in Hell! Chris: But I do it every day. Sometimes twice. Francis: Mark my words, lad. You may think you're alone in there, but God's watching. Don't do it again! Chris: God's watching me do number two? Oh, man. I'm a sinner, and God's a pervert. hmm, i agree with you on carrying past lovers’ influences. as much as i hate to admit it, i’ve learned and explored many things through men. music, art, books, new ways of looking at life. when i think about them, i almost instantly think about what they did to change me-and it’s usually for the better. i think everybody’s just a little narcissistic hoping that they’ve also left a past impression on their exes too.

btw, i also had the nosy ghost phobia when i was a kid. except it also included jesus and god, and i blame my sunday school teacher. they need to modify the whole “all-knowing” to “all-knowing-important-things.” they also made a family guy joke about it too, but i can’t find the clip. it’s hilarious.

Francis: I know what you’re doing in there, and it’s a sin! If you ever do it again, you’ll burn in Hell!

Chris: But I do it every day. Sometimes twice.

Francis: Mark my words, lad. You may think you’re alone in there, but God’s watching. Don’t do it again!

Chris: God’s watching me do number two? Oh, man. I’m a sinner, and God’s a pervert.

]]> By: loafingcactus http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466016 loafingcactus Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:21:53 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/11/10/the-crowded-cloud-of-witnesses-of-ex-lovers-ex-wives-and-the-call-to-grow/#comment-466016 Beautifully written. We live in a culture that encourages hatred of exes (there is something you could probably explain a lot on, Hugo), and I would rather keep mine in the communion of love from which they departure originated. Two are my best friends; perhaps the only people I can count on in this world to love me always. The judgments of the others still stand in my mind, holding me accountable to the best part of me that I at one point simultaneously sold and bought into where I saw the best part of them. Beautifully written. We live in a culture that encourages hatred of exes (there is something you could probably explain a lot on, Hugo), and I would rather keep mine in the communion of love from which they departure originated. Two are my best friends; perhaps the only people I can count on in this world to love me always. The judgments of the others still stand in my mind, holding me accountable to the best part of me that I at one point simultaneously sold and bought into where I saw the best part of them.

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